The CTX vs Deus vs Whites thread

[Guest]

im looking at another metal detector just to add to my collection and im wondering how good is the whites v3i vs the mxt pro cause i kinda like the look at the mxt pro but heard it dosnt have a volume knob which would annoy the hell out of me .

From personal experience the v3i will take a bit of time learning the machine.

After having owned one I would go with the MXT.

Some headphones have the volume control as well if this is an issue with the volume control.

 

[blakegarv]

Are you using the Deus in the Goldfields? Only reason I ask is that the mineralised soil around the golden triangle is vastly different to the soil I have near where I live a couple of hrs away. I can use my VLF machine all over the parks and beach near home but it struggles for depth on the goldfields due to the high magnetite and ironstone content.
That being said I have seen the specs for the Deus and it looks like a great all round machine.

ive seen a few videos of the deus finding gold in the gold fields but what people have to remember is fbs/vlf isnt designed for hot rocks and goldfield the only machines that are designed for gold fields are gold specific machines PI and most the time you end up paying $5000 for a gold machine and never make your money back anyway because you have all the costs of getting up to the gold fields then there is alot of guys with contracts who own alot of the area and if you find gold most the time you have to claim it and make sure it wasnt found on someones property i dont know why people are so infactuated with the gold fields its not what it used to be and most the time your out of pocket rather than profiting not to mention most the big contractors own most the good areas out there anyway .in my eyes the gold fields isnt worth the trouble .but thats just my 2 cents .

See I don't go detecting because I want to make my money back or make a profit. I detect because I like getting out in the bush. I like the challenge. I like to imagine what it would have been like back in the gold rush days.
I only commented about the gold fields because you said your Deus had no problems with Australian soils. I was just curious to see how it went in highly mineralized soils. I am a tech head through and through so when a detector performs well I like to know how and why. I certainly am not knocking the Deus as I haven't read too many negative things about it.

ah k yeh i mean i dont really detect for profit but i like to see how much i can make over the yr .i do like the relaxing feeling it give me just being outdoors .these computers and stuff are slowly killing us i reakon and metal detecting has definatly improved my fitness i feel.

yeh i think it goes ok in gold fields like i think it will get a few inches but the real detectors for gold fields is definatly PI machines but the deus does show promise with small gold and jewellry over other vlf and fbs machines because of its differant frequencys and it has got its own gold field program as well thats one thing i love about the deus is xp detectors is making another upgrade atm version4 and its said to be the best yet so i cant wait .i msged xp and they said it will most likely come out at the end of the yr .

 

[blakegarv]

thx for the advice guys .still unsure on what i should get as a new detector but i guess ill just have to have a bit of a browse and search some videos im still saving at the moment but my coin count keeps getting higher and higher with the deus so shouldnt be long now .

 

[Narrawa]

The v3i is every detector you ever dreamed of...however its better to start out with one while your still young. Cause its going to take some time to learn how to make it into your dream machine. :lol: :lol:

 

[blakegarv]

well i had a ctx and that was a massive letdown the v3i does look like it would be pretty good at deciphering junk from good targets with its 3 frequencys and its screen that shows whats the strongest frequency for the target it looks pretty cool .is it very heavy narrawa ?.

 

[Ridge Runner]

The v3i is every detector you ever dreamed of...however its better to start out with one while your still young. Cause its going to take some time to learn how to make it into your dream machine. :lol: :lol:

Hahahahahahaha, Bloody Cheek,

Are you calling me an Ole Fart, does this mean I can't have one?? lol

Seriously though it can be set up to emulate other Machines because of all the Adjustable settings it Has, and you are right by time you learn how to set it up as every other machine you will be my Age,

Bugger,,, I hate it when your right,

 

[Guest]

well i had a ctx and that was a massive letdown the v3i does look like it would be pretty good at deciphering junk from good targets with its 3 frequencys and its screen that shows whats the strongest frequency for the target it looks pretty cool .is it very heavy narrawa ?.

What the v3i needs is an ability to choose
2 frequencies And have only those targets
that fall under your chosen Frequencies to
be heard. If it did work that way say bye
Bye to aluminium screw caps simply by
ignoring the frequency The aluminium screw
caps fall under while coins fall under The low
frequency. We have had this discussion Here
before though.

There is talk an updated version of the v3i
might be Introduced.

 

[Ridge Runner]

well i had a ctx and that was a massive letdown the v3i does look like it would be pretty good at deciphering junk from good targets with its 3 frequencys and its screen that shows whats the strongest frequency for the target it looks pretty cool .is it very heavy narrawa ?.

What the v3i needs is an ability to choose
2 frequencies And have only those targets
that fall under your chosen Frequencies to
be heard. If it did work that way say bye
Bye to aluminium screw caps simply by
ignoring the frequency The aluminium screw
caps fall under while coins fall under The low
frequency. We have had this discussion Here
before though.

There is talk an updated version of the v3i
might be Introduced but there is going to be
a few new detectors To come out within 12
months.

I have never understood why you could not pick what combination of Frequencies you liked,

 

[Narrawa]

blakegarv wrote:

well i had a ctx and that was a massive letdown the v3i does look like it would be pretty good at deciphering junk from good targets with its 3 frequencys and its screen that shows whats the strongest frequency for the target it looks pretty cool .is it very heavy narrawa ?.

Yes its got some weight to it.
Since there is no real V3I discussions going on in Australia, its not worth the effort to continuously report the findings. Most people give up on it and move on looking for something easier to use. Im almost at that point myself, but iv not found anything yet thats got mojo like the v3i.
Here's a report i did on it while using it in the WA goldfields....it may give you something to go on if your thinking of trying it.

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=7803

My advice would be find find an easier machine to use thats on par with the Deus...perhaps the ACE 250.?... :lol: :lol: ...Just kidding.... .i meant to say 150.

:lol:

 

[Guest]

Would be great to hear from others that use the Whites MXT or the 3030 though.

 

[Norvic]

Firstly re. my earlier post and my use of the Deus there is no noticeable lag. Wireless gives less lag then copper.
Secondly it is a easy machine to use, just set in one of the inbuilt programs, for whatever use you wish.
Thirdly the battery issues are non existent, just charge night before use. You`ll get a day plus no problem.

I suggest start off in Basic 1 or Basic 2. Master that then you can make it as complex a machine as you wish or use as is, heaps of adjustments to tweak and 8 empty slots to save your custom programs in. Andy Sabischs book "The Deus Handbook" will help you there once you`ve a good understanding of the Deus from its manual. I would not hesitate suggesting the Deus to a keen beginner. Not having a CTX or a Whites I cannot comment on them except to say have used on coins alongside a CTX, checking individual signals, neither I nor the CTX user believe either are the better, we tested for many hours.

I have no affiliation with any brand of detector, love the Deus, as I loved Minelabs PIs and now love their GPZ. The Deus is my second detector I purchased specifically for coins, I have mainly used detectors for gold for 35+years. My first being a Xterra 705 a very capable machine but not up there with the CTX or Deus. It is not designed to compete with them.

 

[Ridge Runner]

Would be great to hear from others that use the Whites MXT or the 3030 though.

Can't think of anyone who own's one,lol

Put It This way, What would you think about a machine That finds 3 lots of Gold and Silver and over a Dozen Ancient Coins In An Area that you have Detected for 5 years and never found 1 old coin In a matter of A Couple hours.

john

 

[SteelPat]

I have no affiliation with any brand of detector, love the Deus, as I loved Minelabs PIs and now love their GPZ. The Deus is my second detector I purchased specifically for coins, I have mainly used detectors for gold for 35+years. My first being a Xterra 705 a very capable machine but not up there with the CTX or Deus. It is not designed to compete with them.

Have you tried using the GPZ for coins yet?

 

[Ridge Runner]

I have no affiliation with any brand of detector, love the Deus, as I loved Minelabs PIs and now love their GPZ. The Deus is my second detector I purchased specifically for coins, I have mainly used detectors for gold for 35+years. My first being a Xterra 705 a very capable machine but not up there with the CTX or Deus. It is not designed to compete with them.

Have you tried using the GPZ for coins yet?

I Tried it with the GP 3500 quite A few Times

Seriously I think the ZED would punish you real bad searching for coins.

 

[grubstake]

Wireless gives less lag then copper.

And you base this statement on what exactly?

 

[Narrawa]

Iv found coins with the 4500, not something id purposely go out with looking for coins. Some of the depths PIs are capable of finding coins at, can leave you exhausted.

Best dig was 26"on a penny at Hill End....i do have it on vid, but my grammar is a little disturbing for youtubing it.... :lol:

 

[Ridge Runner]

Iv found coins with the 4500, not something id purposely go out with looking for coins. Some of the depths PIs are capable of finding coins at, can leave you exhausted.

Best dig was 26"on a penny at Hill End....i do have it on vid, but my grammar is a little disturbing for youtubing it.... :lol:

That's not like You,

that coin must of been lost before the soil was put there, Deepest I have found them is in the sub soil which is about 14+ inches,

 

[rocketaroo]

Iv found coins with the 4500, not something id purposely go out with looking for coins. Some of the depths PIs are capable of finding coins at, can leave you exhausted.

Best dig was 26"on a penny at Hill End....i do have it on vid, but my grammar is a little disturbing for youtubing it.... :lol:

Upload it, and make it unlisted, they seem to allow profanity now anyway.

 

[Norvic]

Wireless gives less lag then copper.

And you base this statement on what exactly?

Wireless internet operation through the mobile phone network as quoted in my original posts. Check out the speed of wireless communication compared to copper, wireless can be beaten by fibre-light but not by copper. You believe differently?

 

[Norvic]

I have no affiliation with any brand of detector, love the Deus, as I loved Minelabs PIs and now love their GPZ. The Deus is my second detector I purchased specifically for coins, I have mainly used detectors for gold for 35+years. My first being a Xterra 705 a very capable machine but not up there with the CTX or Deus. It is not designed to compete with them.

Have you tried using the GPZ for coins yet?

I Tried it with the GP 3500 quite A few Times

Seriously I think the ZED would punish you real bad searching for coins.

That`s why I bought the Deus, horses for courses, seriously.