The CTX vs Deus vs Whites thread

[Narrawa]

I never mentioned the Racer. I simply asked if you had a video with a detector doing the tasks you mentioned. No point challenging a detector if you don't have a video of one doing just that as no machine is perfect.

No you didnt mention the RACER, i simply got in first.

No i dont have a video showing the test im interested in seeing with the Dues..using other detectors, i dont need convincing on what i already own/use therefor its not a challenge. Pass or not, doesn't make it a bad detector.

 

[Ridge Runner]

Cool, Wolfy is that like the V3i's Analyse screen, it seems pretty accurate and although there is no numbers on the screen you can tell what the item Type is,

No its similiar to the polar plot screen.

That's the One, Sorry I haven't been asleep yet and it is now Lunchtime the next day and My Brain starting to Fade.

 

[Narrawa]

Do you have a video of a detector performing the above with what
You are asking?

No as a matter of fact i dont, but im not here to see if the RACER can pass this test, or any other make/model due to the fact i conduct this test about ten times a day when demoing the units i sell. The customer is then left to make up their own mind...or take the items from my hand and conduct the test themselves if trickery is a concern.

Im here to see if someone is willing to do this test and report back their findings...a video is not really necessary, im happy to believe in the folks that goto the trouble to post their findings. Now, can you tell me if the Dues will pass the test i posted...or do you think this video of it almost 4" from the nail will wash.?

PS, if the RACER didnt pass this test...the point of putting the test up would be.???

the racer is a good machine i admit that it does have good recovery but not the recovery speed of the deus .i actually think for the money the racer is a top notch machine .

Watch the vide that Wolfau put up where the guy swings the Dues a little to quick for it to be able to process...2.36. like i said before.....recovery speed is not everything. The use of higher disc settings slows everything down.

 

[blakegarv]

Do you have a video of a detector performing the above with what
You are asking?

No as a matter of fact i dont, but im not here to see if the RACER can pass this test, or any other make/model due to the fact i conduct this test about ten times a day when demoing the units i sell. The customer is then left to make up their own mind...or take the items from my hand and conduct the test themselves if trickery is a concern.

Im here to see if someone is willing to do this test and report back their findings...a video is not really necessary, im happy to believe in the folks that goto the trouble to post their findings. Now, can you tell me if the Dues will pass the test i posted...or do you think this video of it almost 4" from the nail will wash.?

PS, if the RACER didnt pass this test...the point of putting the test up would be.???

the racer is a good machine i admit that it does have good recovery but not the recovery speed of the deus .i actually think for the money the racer is a top notch machine .

Watch the vide that Wolfau put up where the guy swings the Dues a little to quick for it to be able to process...2.36. like i said before.....recovery speed is not everything. The use of higher disc settings slows everything down.

yeh but the guy was using reactivity 4 the deus has 5 reactivity settings .it dosnt matter at the end of the day because no other detector can do this the deus is known worldwide because it is the fastest detector out there the racer is a good machine but there is a reason why it is so much cheaper than the deus because it dosnt have the deus speed or technology .

 

[Ridge Runner]

Do you have a video of a detector performing the above with what
You are asking?

No as a matter of fact i dont, but im not here to see if the RACER can pass this test, or any other make/model due to the fact i conduct this test about ten times a day when demoing the units i sell. The customer is then left to make up their own mind...or take the items from my hand and conduct the test themselves if trickery is a concern.

Im here to see if someone is willing to do this test and report back their findings...a video is not really necessary, im happy to believe in the folks that goto the trouble to post their findings. Now, can you tell me if the Dues will pass the test i posted...or do you think this video of it almost 4" from the nail will wash.?

PS, if the RACER didnt pass this test...the point of putting the test up would be.???

the racer is a good machine i admit that it does have good recovery but not the recovery speed of the deus .i actually think for the money the racer is a top notch machine .

I dunno Mate, That Little Racer would be pretty close, In fact out of the Normal style Machines it is a flaming Hot Rod.

I have No doubt the XP's are Fast and really find those thin sectioned Hammered coin from 800 years ago and because they are so thin and small I only ever found one with my Sov GT and that Took 5 years,
When I got a Machine with a Fast Recovery the Little Buggers come out the Ground with their Hands Up

 

[blakegarv]

what machine do you use ridge runner .im not saying the racer is a bad machine its a great machine for the price and in its price range it might be the best im not sure but what im saying it the deus is faster and has so much more features and is so much more customizable .but its also more expensive so yeh .

im actually thinking of getting a new detector just cause im intrigued by differant metal detectors its kinda addicting getting new machines and playing around with them .i think you said you had a whites mxt or something what are they like ?.

 

[blakegarv]

ok so i just watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2qsp-pe_w and seems the racer wins but what you have to remember is hes swinging the racer very slow with the deus i can swing it 1 second each way and still pick up coins and i have a funny feeling if you swang the races at the same speed it would not see the target also i feel it will not hit targets at the same depth as the deus swinging it very fast .

most the time when you see a detector under 1000 and it has good recover usually it dosnt have good depth when you swing it fast the deus you can swing on sens 90 really fast and it will still see coins but the racer looks like a good machine i still think if you lined a bunch of coins up and swang it fast it would not pick them up where as the deus most likely would . there is always a trade off with cheaper machines but it is still awesome to do that for under 1000 dollars .

i must also add the guy had the deus on reactivity 3 turn it up to 4-5 and maybe it would of seen the coin both ways .

 

[Ridge Runner]

what machine do you use ridge runner .im not saying the racer is a bad machine its a great machine for the price and in its price range it might be the best im not sure but what im saying it the deus is faster and has so much more features and is so much more customizable .but its also more expensive so yeh .

im actually thinking of getting a new detector just cause im intrigued by differant metal detectors its kinda addicting getting new machines and playing around with them .i think you said you had a whites mxt or something what are they like ?.

My VLFs are the GMT which is Very Fast because it only has All Metal Mode, And the MXT All Pro, and the MXT does those tests in all 3 modes, which Is Cool

One Machine that was really good was the Musketeer Advantage but Minelab stopped making them ( CURSES)

My New MXT All Pro seems EXtemely Hot on very Tiny Targets and it picks up my Bare had at a fair distance and big items it goes Way Down Deep, In Normal ground it will Smoke Most PI Machines,

Haha, Plus I have the all seeing Eye that turns it into A TDI/ATX Killer

 

[Guest]

ok so i just watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2qsp-pe_w and seems the racer wins but what you have to remember is hes swinging the racer very slow with the deus i can swing it 1 second each way and still pick up coins and i have a funny feeling if you swang the races at the same speed it would not see the target also i feel it will not hit targets at the same depth as the deus swinging it very fast .

most the time when you see a detector under 1000 and it has good recover usually it dosnt have good depth when you swing it fast the deus you can swing on sens 90 really fast and it will still see coins but the racer looks like a good machine i still think if you lined a bunch of coins up and swang it fast it would not pick them up where as the deus most likely would . there is always a trade off with cheaper machines but it is still awesome to do that for under 1000 dollars .

i must also add the guy had the deus on reactivity 3 turn it up to 4-5 and maybe it would of seen the coin both ways .

When comparing detectors its imperative identical coils are used.

The Deus has the 11" coil and the Racer
Has the narrower 11x7 coil.

Would be interested to see if their is any difference comparing the racer with the Deus using the standard 9" coil.

As mentioned the other thing is the reactivity setting.

What we need though is a small elliptical
Coil for the Deus. There was talk one was
Being made not sure though.

These tests done mean much anyway because the next software upgrade could
Improve the Deus further.

 

[blakegarv]

i might check some videos out on youtube about it seems like it could be my next detector purchase haha .

 

[blakegarv]

wow whites have so many detectors its so confusing hahah .

 

[Guest]

i might check some videos out on youtube about it seems like it could be my next detector purchase haha .

Hold onto your money as the next generation
vlf's are introduced by Fisher next year. These
could change The detecting landscape. Time will
Tell though.

 

[Ridge Runner]

ok so i just watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2qsp-pe_w and seems the racer wins but what you have to remember is hes swinging the racer very slow with the deus i can swing it 1 second each way and still pick up coins and i have a funny feeling if you swang the races at the same speed it would not see the target also i feel it will not hit targets at the same depth as the deus swinging it very fast .

most the time when you see a detector under 1000 and it has good recover usually it dosnt have good depth when you swing it fast the deus you can swing on sens 90 really fast and it will still see coins but the racer looks like a good machine i still think if you lined a bunch of coins up and swang it fast it would not pick them up where as the deus most likely would . there is always a trade off with cheaper machines but it is still awesome to do that for under 1000 dollars .

i must also add the guy had the deus on reactivity 3 turn it up to 4-5 and maybe it would of seen the coin both ways .

I did the 5 coin test with my first GMT and it sounded like a Machine gun, I swung it that fast That I thought I would snap the shaft at less than 1/2 a second it did it but I won't do it again.
It was a stupid thing to do but it saw them just the same.

 

[blakegarv]

i might check some videos out on youtube about it seems like it could be my next detector purchase haha .

Hold onto your money as the next generation
vlf's are introduced by Fisher next year. These
could change The detecting landscape. Time will
Tell though.

nice .also can the mxt be used on the beach is it waterproof if so that is pretty cool for $1500.

 

[Ridge Runner]

i might check some videos out on youtube about it seems like it could be my next detector purchase haha .

Hold onto your money as the next generation
vlf's are introduced by Fisher next year. These
could change The detecting landscape. Time will
Tell though.

nice .also can the mxt be used on the beach is it waterproof if so that is pretty cool for $1500.

The MXT's have weather seals on the Meter and the control Box so using them in heavy Rain does not bother them and all their coils are water proof, It has a dedicated Salt/Beach mode and the Concentric Coils are the best for the beach and they make the 5.3 = 6 inch the 9.5/950 = 9and 1/2 inches and the 12/300mm coil and the All Seeing EYE 15" inch Coil Bwwaah

 

[Narrawa]

ok so i just watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2qsp-pe_w and seems the racer wins but what you have to remember is hes swinging the racer very slow with the deus i can swing it 1 second each way and still pick up coins and i have a funny feeling if you swang the races at the same speed it would not see the target also i feel it will not hit targets at the same depth as the deus swinging it very fast .

most the time when you see a detector under 1000 and it has good recover usually it dosnt have good depth when you swing it fast the deus you can swing on sens 90 really fast and it will still see coins but the racer looks like a good machine i still think if you lined a bunch of coins up and swang it fast it would not pick them up where as the deus most likely would . there is always a trade off with cheaper machines but it is still awesome to do that for under 1000 dollars .

i must also add the guy had the deus on reactivity 3 turn it up to 4-5 and maybe it would of seen the coin both ways .

When you conduct the test i put up for the Dues.....get back to us and let us know how it went.....and remember...the coin must be UNDER the nail, or at least and inch to the side, yet still under the nail.... Factory settings only in a coin mode.

This thread was about the other three models, best we leave the RACER out of it now or cop some flack.

 

[blakegarv]

i might check some videos out on youtube about it seems like it could be my next detector purchase haha .

Hold onto your money as the next generation
vlf's are introduced by Fisher next year. These
could change The detecting landscape. Time will
Tell though.

nice .also can the mxt be used on the beach is it waterproof if so that is pretty cool for $1500.

The MXT's have weather seals on the Meter and the control Box so using them in heavy Rain does not bother them and all their coils are water proof, It has a dedicated Salt/Beach mode and the Concentric Coils are the best for the beach and they make the 5.3 = 6 inch the 9.5/950 = 9and 1/2 inches and the 12/300mm coil and the All Seeing EYE 15" inch Coil Bwwaah

sounds like a great detector.watching some videos on them now and looks so cool .it comes with a 10 inch coil hey ?. gold search are selling them for $1500 .
http://www.goldsearchaustralia.com/index.php/our-products/whites-detectors/mxt-pro.html

 

[Ridge Runner]

ok so i just watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e2qsp-pe_w and seems the racer wins but what you have to remember is hes swinging the racer very slow with the deus i can swing it 1 second each way and still pick up coins and i have a funny feeling if you swang the races at the same speed it would not see the target also i feel it will not hit targets at the same depth as the deus swinging it very fast .

most the time when you see a detector under 1000 and it has good recover usually it dosnt have good depth when you swing it fast the deus you can swing on sens 90 really fast and it will still see coins but the racer looks like a good machine i still think if you lined a bunch of coins up and swang it fast it would not pick them up where as the deus most likely would . there is always a trade off with cheaper machines but it is still awesome to do that for under 1000 dollars .

i must also add the guy had the deus on reactivity 3 turn it up to 4-5 and maybe it would of seen the coin both ways .

When you conduct the test i put up for the Dues.....get back to us and let us know how it went.....and remember...the coin must be UNDER the nail, or at least and inch to the side, yet still under the nail.... Factory settings only in a coin mode.

This thread was about the other three models, best we leave the RACER out of it now or cop some flack.

Well That's not your fault coz it was me who kept going on about it.

So Don't worry, I have to go and stand by the Naughty Wall Now

 

[Ridge Runner]

i might check some videos out on youtube about it seems like it could be my next detector purchase haha .

Hold onto your money as the next generation
vlf's are introduced by Fisher next year. These
could change The detecting landscape. Time will
Tell though.

nice .also can the mxt be used on the beach is it waterproof if so that is pretty cool for $1500.

The MXT's have weather seals on the Meter and the control Box so using them in heavy Rain does not bother them and all their coils are water proof, It has a dedicated Salt/Beach mode and the Concentric Coils are the best for the beach and they make the 5.3 = 6 inch the 9.5/950 = 9and 1/2 inches and the 12/300mm coil and the All Seeing EYE 15" inch Coil Bwwaah

sounds like a great detector.watching some videos on them now and looks so cool .it comes with a 10 inch coil hey ?. gold search are selling them for $1500 .
http://www.goldsearchaustralia.com/index.php/our-products/whites-detectors/mxt-pro.html

Yep and that Coil can see your Bare hand and test piece's below 0.02grams

 

[blakegarv]

can see your bare hand ? what you mean .