treasureman`s ongoing finds

[treasureman]

unfortunately goldpick. when it came out a tiny piece of metal broke off it, off the side, possibly where the razor goes. i kept the tiny piece of metal just in case but i dont think its useable now it feel so nice in the hand, such a nice weight, i wish i could use it to shave it would be an experience thats for sure haha

 

[Ramjet]

Yes a very nice razor. Hard to believe it lived underground for so long. Looks great.

 

[Goldpick]

You can still buy plenty of these old razors, blades etc on ebay.us, but looks like you also require the front cover as well.

Here's a reasonably priced set:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lot-2-GE...844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233b48a0bc

 

[Paulmarr]

Im deciding on getting a new detector.
After find the 3 pence today i dropped the coin on the ground and hovered over in to realist it only picks up the small coin 5-6 inches on full sensitivity. LArger objects are different. But wanting a good detector that doesnt blow the budget that can go say 10 inches on a 3 pence. And can be used near salt water low tide, any tips?

I am a bit bias but a used Sovereign works wonders at the beach and doesn't cost the earth ... the Excaliber is also a good choice in the mid priced detector range... it seems a few of us have Sovereigns now and as Sandta will tell you they are definately silver sniffers - I have found over 60 three pence coins this year - the Sovereign seems to like them and does detect pretty deep - and loves the salt and water.

 

[treasureman]

Wow!!! Thanks my friend. Have you tested how deep it can sniff them? If not can you to a quick test for me by just hovering it over a pence on the ground and seeing when it stops smelling the silver coin? Unless u already know. Does a soverein kick ass over the at pro?

 

[Ramjet]

Does a soverein kick ass over the at pro?

I have posted elsewhere that I was with sandta and his sovereign on the beach. He got a signal and I ran my pro over it.. silence. It was a $2 coin. So yes the sovereign kicks the pro's ass in wet sand in my opinion.

 

[treasureman]

Thsts very interesting ramjet. Ill have to read up on this sovereign

 

[Paulmarr]

It does and I have pinged 3p and a mercury dime at 18 inches - put it this way - it detects targets deeper than I want to dig! OK on the beach put in a park it does not have a screen so you don't have an accurate gauge of depth until you find it.

 

[treasureman]

Ok thats no good i am use to having a screen for target id. Would be lost without one now. What do you suggest that has a target id screen that competes with the sovereign?

 

[Paulmarr]

The Explorer - Miners Den have a sale on them $940 I think

 

[treasureman]

Or should i consider a new coil. Would a coil offer deeper finds on smaller coins with my garrett

 

[treasureman]

The explorer looks kickass and appeals to me. I dont understand why the explorer is the same price as the at pro when the explorer goes deeper? What the ?

 

[Goldpick]

I'm going to be a bit biased too, and recommend the Explorer SE Pro if you want to buy from new. It will go deep and hits pretty hard on silvers, it sells for $970 from Miners Den, usually sells for $1265, and there are only limited numbers left. Like the Sovereign, being multi frequency it has no problems working wet sand or in the water, and comes with Koss Headphones, charger, rechargeable battery pack and allaline battery pack - the screen is also backlit for night detecting.

The other night we were comparing Dryhorror's ATPro depth on targets compared to the Explorer, and there were some targets that the Pro wouldn't even sound off on that were clearly picked up by the Explorer. Probably the biggest downfall of ATPro is having no all-metal capability, which tends to limit its depth.

 

[Paulmarr]

Treasureman - you will learn that deeper probably applies more to looking for gold nuggets than it does looking for coins, etc in parks and beaches. I was talking with my son (SA Bogan) the other day and of the 35 or so rings we found this year - 33 of them were only 4-6 inches or less under the sand. The deeper coins are usually the heavier ones - large pennies can be quite deep but when you unearth it you are sorry you chased it (I do not value copper especially from the beach).

The functionality you should be looking for is:

• Able to ground balance with good sensitivity on wet sand[/*]

• waterproof coil / waterproof detector[/*]

• based on Multi band technology[/*]

• target separation (CTX and Explorer are great in this area)[/*]

• proven treasure finder in the detecting circumstances you want to engage in[/*]

And then of course the $$$$

 

[treasureman]

so search coil wont make a difference? If i buy a bigger one or smaller one?
All your advice has been top class and opened my mind more so.
Im going to stick with this detector until i can justify buying a explorer se pro. Probably a good second hand one.
Nevertheless what an addictive hobby. Before this was fishing, now i havent touched the fishing rod in weeks. The detector has replaced it haha.

 

[Paulmarr]

so search coil wont make a difference? If i buy a bigger one or smaller one?
All your advice has been top class and opened my mind more so.
Im going to stick with this detector until i can justify buying a explorer se pro. Probably a good second hand one.
Nevertheless what an addictive hobby. Before this was fishing, now i havent touched the fishing rod in weeks. The detector has replaced it haha.

I dont reckon it will - if money is an issue I would be hitting up the parks and tot lots to find the spendables and pay for it that way. I know we notched up about $400 in a few weeks - if you set your mind to it you will find it - all you need is a ring or chain and you are away ...

 

[Goldpick]

Re coils, in many cases, a smaller coil may have its advantages over a larger one, especially in trashy ground. Since changing back to a smaller ecliptical coil, I am getting a lot less emi falsing, better performance in iron, and better target separation. Most of my recent finds are coming from the same area, detected over and over again from different angles to seek out masked targets, ones that were "hidden" by falsing and nulling on the larger coil, so I am effectively getting more "depth" simply by being able to hear clearer targets

Sometimes a bigger coil will simply see too much, with multiple targets under the coil at any one time if in junk and iron ridden areas can be very frustrating, although much more suited to the beach where targets are more sparsely spread.

 

[treasureman]

You've sold me on staying with a small coil goldpick. maybe its not too bad after all im just thinking i want to go deeper.
it goes quite deep on larger items. thanks for pointing out larger coils cause more drama due to more mixed signals. understood.
ill hit the parks soon i think. night time style

 

[Goldpick]

Different coils for different situations, locations or junk density is the idea. Your area may be completely different to the ones I regularly frequent, as I usually have to deal with grassy areas matted with pull tabs, bottle caps and other non-ferrous junk, not to mention all the ferrous targets as well. So you need to be able to "see" between the junk and iron to hit good targets, that's where the small to mid sized coils shine.

My 11" coil struggles at times to seperate out targets from all the junk, so you can imagine what an even larger coil would do in the same situation. If your area is reasonably junk free, you may well get away with a bigger coil for better ground coverage and more accurate ID's. That that is something you will personally have to decide on whether it is worth spending the extra money on, or just put the money towards an upgraded detector.

The secret with your ATPro for deeper targets, is to use it like the Ace boys do. Use the pinpoint button to act as a true all-metal search mode to pick out deeper targets that may not be strong enough to make the Pro give off a normal signal. After a while you get used to the tones, responses and "shapes" of the deeper targets to become quite accurate. Sure it's not the intended use of the pinpoint button, but it's effective all the same.

 

[treasureman]

There is quite a bit of junk around these neck of the woods. Pulltabs especially and only can lids which outnumber the good finds. However they are not closely together like in parks say. Which is good. But i still think a smaller coil has its benefits like you said. Im more comfortable now with my target id's. Seem to be getting the same ones, pulltabls, can tops, coins, iron junk and its becoming easier to pinpoint what is a good target compared to what isnt.
Yesterday just a short excursion. Under a tree i found these 3 coins buried together, 1950 pence, a very badly warn shilling and a 2 cent piece.
The pence has been stain pink from the 2 cent piece. Wishing it had come up a bit better, wouldnt mind a pink mint condition pence that would be something different.