Ease up mate! This about amateur fossicking/prospecting on allowable areas. This isn't the Mine Owner's Affiliation Forum. We're talking about putting a few buckets of material through a highbanker not using a front end loader & "big red" Todd Hoffman. Not everyone has the means or even the inclination to be running a mining lease.washgravel said:
Qld prospectors warning!
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This has nothing to do with mining leases washgravel, hows about you pull your head in .. congrats on having a mining lease where you can play with the big tonka trucks set but for the rest of us we are discussing hobby prospecting
washgravel said:
Thats ok mate
Im taking on your advise thanx.
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Jaros said:Calm down washgravel, no one was arguing. Please read "that" post again...
Okay point taken Jaros.
It was his hahahaha sentence which I took as a sarcastic go at me as well as his other questions.
We all want to be mates here, simple as that--Cheers
It was your get a mining lease sentence which i took as a sarcastic go at me as well as your other like the rest of us?
Tit for tat?
So do ya wanna share mate now we cleared that up??!
Tit for tat?
So do ya wanna share mate now we cleared that up??!
We are hearing you washgravel is there any truth to what a member of the mines dept told me!! I was told in no uncertain terms just approximately 6 weeks ago that those who do have leases and don't show either how, when and how much money was won or lost will be asked to forfeit their leases,....so the big question I see here for us not being resident full time miners. We don't have a snow balls chance in hell of keeping our leases if we need to work at another job to supplement our income to survive...like yobskin say's we are only hobbyist and enjoy our outings as such and should be allowed to do a bit if we abide by the rules and don't screw it up for everyone.
Sounds convoluted but the boys in Mareeba made me aware of this because I wanted to do the right thing and get my own bit of dirt and go there when I was able...no way they said either full time or no time.
Sounds convoluted but the boys in Mareeba made me aware of this because I wanted to do the right thing and get my own bit of dirt and go there when I was able...no way they said either full time or no time.
Hi guys....hahahaha
I have got the ball rolling...by using the honey method?
I have had to deal with Qld fisheries and food saftey for 20years and several ministers soo this shouldnt be to bad.
At the moment im scouting around gathering intel gaining local support.
To gain momentum it must start at the bottom ....
Then let it spread like wild fire...
Main goal is to combine recreational activities,tourism and national parks as intrests to boost local economy around fossicking rich country towns.
I need intel from other Qld fossicking towns/areas...
If you live there bonus!
Such things like....
Is your town prospector friendly?
Does your town depend on travelers/tourists for income?
Get a feel for the people and see if they could benefit from a change...
Local historian
local mp
Test the waters so to speak..
My aim is to get as many Qld towns together as possible.
And launch them in to action all at once..
It makes a good media story.
I have local support from the historian club, town tourism and im seeing my mp next week....its taken me 3hrs of my time over a couple of days.
And it wasnt stressfull .
Help me help Qld ...Australian prospectors all under one act.
I have got the ball rolling...by using the honey method?
I have had to deal with Qld fisheries and food saftey for 20years and several ministers soo this shouldnt be to bad.
At the moment im scouting around gathering intel gaining local support.
To gain momentum it must start at the bottom ....
Then let it spread like wild fire...
Main goal is to combine recreational activities,tourism and national parks as intrests to boost local economy around fossicking rich country towns.
I need intel from other Qld fossicking towns/areas...
If you live there bonus!
Such things like....
Is your town prospector friendly?
Does your town depend on travelers/tourists for income?
Get a feel for the people and see if they could benefit from a change...
Local historian
local mp
Test the waters so to speak..
My aim is to get as many Qld towns together as possible.
And launch them in to action all at once..
It makes a good media story.
I have local support from the historian club, town tourism and im seeing my mp next week....its taken me 3hrs of my time over a couple of days.
And it wasnt stressfull .
Help me help Qld ...Australian prospectors all under one act.
WalnLiz
In remembrance, April 2024
I commend you on your efforts yobskin and hope all members get behind your good cause. It's the kind of fight that can't be won alone, and the more involved the bigger the voice and chance of progress. Qld is promoted and regarded as a major tourist state, and most of the gem and gold deposits are on the fringes where any sort of tourism is generally welcomed by the communities.
Get those fringe communities on side, and the fringe MPs from those areas onside, and the ball may get that little nudge it needs to get it rolling.
Best of luck and look forward to following with interest.
Wal.
Get those fringe communities on side, and the fringe MPs from those areas onside, and the ball may get that little nudge it needs to get it rolling.
Best of luck and look forward to following with interest.
Wal.
Out of all the ghost's come a positive cause.
Well done my friend and please do not let go of the direction you are going.
Words behind a screen and what ever cannot describe the direction you have taken.
Fight mate, Fight.
Well done my friend and please do not let go of the direction you are going.
Words behind a screen and what ever cannot describe the direction you have taken.
Fight mate, Fight.
For the sake of an argument,,, Mod's.
It horrifies me what the Greenie camp is on about.
Promise huge health, Education, the things we want to hear, but,
What a way to pad over what they are really going to do. Shut all the bloody carbon tax stuff down that hard, we will be living in mud huts with pretty green bush around.
No Deal this way.
No Deal...
As a person said to me not long ago,
Go Prospecting, Spend your money doing it,,But,
Only use a shovel 150 Cm Long by 250 Mm wide and Don't use a pan over 150 mm wide.
Crap.
It horrifies me what the Greenie camp is on about.
Promise huge health, Education, the things we want to hear, but,
What a way to pad over what they are really going to do. Shut all the bloody carbon tax stuff down that hard, we will be living in mud huts with pretty green bush around.
No Deal this way.
No Deal...
As a person said to me not long ago,
Go Prospecting, Spend your money doing it,,But,
Only use a shovel 150 Cm Long by 250 Mm wide and Don't use a pan over 150 mm wide.
Crap.
Its still early days yet.....im more interested in promoting recreational prospecting for tourism it just helps having the same law to be able make it possible.
It can only be won if the people want it.....it will take every man woman cat dog horse goat and the mother inlaws managery of strays...to get it to work. And yes it will need thousands of signitures more the better! I dont want this just to scrape in we need this to be an undeniable cause.
Im working my area you work yours and we will all hook up when the time is right.
And please only contribute positivity to the cause....
Best regards Yipa Yobskins....
It can only be won if the people want it.....it will take every man woman cat dog horse goat and the mother inlaws managery of strays...to get it to work. And yes it will need thousands of signitures more the better! I dont want this just to scrape in we need this to be an undeniable cause.
Im working my area you work yours and we will all hook up when the time is right.
And please only contribute positivity to the cause....
Best regards Yipa Yobskins....
Goldtarget
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I've said it before but repeat it here for your benefit mate. Deer hunters in Australia get great media coverage and open arms from the surrounding towns whilst deer season is open. Sounds like what you want yes? And despite a few hard nosed greens year after year firearms are loaded, deer shot and money spent.
You want to know why they are so successful? They spend money and they can quantify it, the tourist dollars, they know and promote what they spend. They have a very good internal body with intelligent and affable members that churn out the good news stories. They adhere to their responsibilities, self regulate and keep out the nutters, and do some extra environmental work.
They work damn hard at image and sell their influence as tourism benefits. The pollies lap it more dollars for the state! I suspect prospectors don't get nearly the attention they deserve on this. Sovereign hill gets 100,000 people through a year. It will always be a jewel in the crown because of tourist dollars. We just have remained in some sort of sleepy status probably more identified as 4wd or recreational groups than the true we are bringing tourist dollars force that we are.
If prospectors numbers turned serious dollars mate they would be opening it not shutting it down. And I'm sure we are just nobody representing us is counting the dollars and if they are then they certainly aren't selling the message.
You want to know why they are so successful? They spend money and they can quantify it, the tourist dollars, they know and promote what they spend. They have a very good internal body with intelligent and affable members that churn out the good news stories. They adhere to their responsibilities, self regulate and keep out the nutters, and do some extra environmental work.
They work damn hard at image and sell their influence as tourism benefits. The pollies lap it more dollars for the state! I suspect prospectors don't get nearly the attention they deserve on this. Sovereign hill gets 100,000 people through a year. It will always be a jewel in the crown because of tourist dollars. We just have remained in some sort of sleepy status probably more identified as 4wd or recreational groups than the true we are bringing tourist dollars force that we are.
If prospectors numbers turned serious dollars mate they would be opening it not shutting it down. And I'm sure we are just nobody representing us is counting the dollars and if they are then they certainly aren't selling the message.
Goldtarget
(AKA OldGT)
In the 1 1/2 min grab this came from had the agriculture minister talking it up and both deer hunters and feild and game reps push the pro hunt message. The greens look silly opposing such a huge influx of money.
Goldtarget said:
I am awear of the "marketing" involved and the costs of such and yes hunters are rich and powerful now..because at one stage they were facing down the same barrel we are....and to survive they needed to unite and be governed under one law for it to be successful. I like guns but cant afford to shoot them thats why im a prospector.
Prospect dollars would be there if you could openly prospect in Qld. Im not driving 400km to use a pan but i would drive 1000km to use a banker...
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Strange isn't it. The visible duck shooters to a certain extent have shot themselves in the foot (sorry about that) by a few visible cowboys attracting the attention of the self righteous green extremes (who then get city folk on side by showing vision of maimed ducks etc), whereas the deer hunters hunt in remote regions where the 'soft roader' greens for the most part can't reach. The tourism bodies down in Gippsland are only to aware of how much money gets pumped into those bush economies by 4WDers/ hunters and anglers (all of whom are opposed by greens) and the local pollies love the power and clout it gives them with their in the city bosses.
From my short time prospecting it seems that while we are passionate, we are also perceived as habitat destroyers. The best we can do in my opinion is to do what goldtarget is suggesting. Make it known in regional areas you visit that you are detecting locally and spending money locally and wouldn't be there if you couldn't detect etc. Buy petrol, food, drinks, speak in the pub etc so that the local businesses get a feel that their income would diminish without prospecting. The other thing to do is for all prospectors to start respecting the bush and speaking up against those that are trashing it. The biggest threat to deer hunting, 4Wdriving and fishing are the cowboys that destroy and trash the area that most of us love. Once a place is closed off, getting it back open is next to impossible.
Sorry for my rant.
From my short time prospecting it seems that while we are passionate, we are also perceived as habitat destroyers. The best we can do in my opinion is to do what goldtarget is suggesting. Make it known in regional areas you visit that you are detecting locally and spending money locally and wouldn't be there if you couldn't detect etc. Buy petrol, food, drinks, speak in the pub etc so that the local businesses get a feel that their income would diminish without prospecting. The other thing to do is for all prospectors to start respecting the bush and speaking up against those that are trashing it. The biggest threat to deer hunting, 4Wdriving and fishing are the cowboys that destroy and trash the area that most of us love. Once a place is closed off, getting it back open is next to impossible.
Sorry for my rant.
Goldtarget
(AKA OldGT)
I think every recreational pursuit has it fringe. In ours it will be the dredgers, the fence jumpers and the blokes using machines to dig. I would not want to appeal to them anymore than the hunters want to attract the shooters that want to wipe the area of everything that moves.
Most places I want to have us enjoy have already been prospected! Even the places we go have new no go zones attached. I often chuckle at filling detector holes on diggings that we got to the point you can't leave an unfilled hole on an unfilled hole, as pointed out in here on pa before.
The last of the blokes causing widespread diggings died out a long time ago. Our advantage like fishing is it could be a family friendly hobby. If we were not only cleaning up the trash of others but helping to rehabilitate non gold bearing whilst some new previously prospected areas were opening up I reckon any prospecter worth their salt would take the time to make asubstantial and significant difference.
I really don't think there's anything new in what I'm proposing here, can't see an argument against that sort of approach. Or you can all come to victoria, some of the best places and laws in the land for prospecting down here.
Most places I want to have us enjoy have already been prospected! Even the places we go have new no go zones attached. I often chuckle at filling detector holes on diggings that we got to the point you can't leave an unfilled hole on an unfilled hole, as pointed out in here on pa before.
The last of the blokes causing widespread diggings died out a long time ago. Our advantage like fishing is it could be a family friendly hobby. If we were not only cleaning up the trash of others but helping to rehabilitate non gold bearing whilst some new previously prospected areas were opening up I reckon any prospecter worth their salt would take the time to make asubstantial and significant difference.
I really don't think there's anything new in what I'm proposing here, can't see an argument against that sort of approach. Or you can all come to victoria, some of the best places and laws in the land for prospecting down here.
Goldtarget
(AKA OldGT)
All due respect Yobskin that above should be part of the lobby groups agenda, I have a lot of faith in what one person can do but they seem unwilling to help a bloke out.
We don't even have a national body steering the whole thing and until that happens I'm pretty sure I'll just see the same old chest beating the state run organizations have held onto for the last couple of decades that is leaving us in the dark ages. But you have to start somewhere I guess.
We don't even have a national body steering the whole thing and until that happens I'm pretty sure I'll just see the same old chest beating the state run organizations have held onto for the last couple of decades that is leaving us in the dark ages. But you have to start somewhere I guess.
WalnLiz
In remembrance, April 2024
Shooters didn't get to where they are overnight, and only recently got into the political agenda. They had the brains to get both gun associations, the gun retail sector, and shooting magazines on board in a combined effort to portray the amount of money turned over by the industry. If a concerted effort was put together by the "Australian" prospecting community as a whole, and not just at state by state level, then a voice worth listening to may be achieved.
Tally up what all the prospecting shops in Australia, lapidary suppliers, detector and coil manufactures, gem and gold magazines, just to name a few generate in the economy, and you already have a formidable base on which to start lobbying.
Just needs somebody with a passion to keep the hobby alive for their children and grandchildren. To coordinate and promote the industry is only one part of the equation. Education and doing the right thing by the environment is just as important....and forums go along way in providing this education.
Long and short of it is, if everybody does nothing, nothing will eventuate.
Wal.
Tally up what all the prospecting shops in Australia, lapidary suppliers, detector and coil manufactures, gem and gold magazines, just to name a few generate in the economy, and you already have a formidable base on which to start lobbying.
Just needs somebody with a passion to keep the hobby alive for their children and grandchildren. To coordinate and promote the industry is only one part of the equation. Education and doing the right thing by the environment is just as important....and forums go along way in providing this education.
Long and short of it is, if everybody does nothing, nothing will eventuate.
Wal.
