Whinge of the day thread...

[Moneybox]

It's not too much different for the rest of us. We'll all go for a quick easy income if it's available it's just that for most of us the opportunity is not there.

 

[sand surfer]

Two weeks in a row we have bought soft wholemeal bread with a reasonable ubd Only to find a day or in one case three days before ubd and it is mouldy. Keep n a braed bin with silicone gel moisture absorbers, yep it’s Qld, not happy Jan!

same here mackka ,got sick of getting half stale bread from iga (the slices of bread are on the dry side to the touch)if we don't put it in the fridge we get 2 days max or it is mouldy, so we drive to the west end of town to wollies and buy bulk bread there and freeze it, they bake their own on site every day

 

[user 7268]

Same same re bread, they sell as fresh but has been frozen. Second day after purchase is full of mould and at six bucks a loaf that is charged not good enough

 

[Mackka]

I /we have taken Ned’s advice and started putting the bread in the fridge and see how that goes. Mind you I do like Cruskits so there is always an alternative in the pantry. Cheers Mackka

 

[sand surfer]

the fresh baked loaf from woollies mackka keeps for a week in the fridge
we freeze the rolls and one loaf and put one loaf in the fridge
the iga bread we get about 4 days in the fridge ,but it has not gone mouldy but has a nasty mould smell to it
they ship it here to a warehouse and i would presume as bogger said, they thaw out what the need for the day and put it on the shelf the next day
a mate works at a shop opposite the warehouse, and he said they only see trucks(semis) there on tuesdays but small delivery trucks leave each day about 10 am, so much for fresh bread

 

[Davent]

This not a whinge.
I'm posting this to open some minds.
It's a modern dreamlike story, and really, should be read in schools, along with quite a few other stories, that helps to understand some of the cultures we have here in this nation.
It was written(or told) during the Whitlam years, and is from NE Arhnemland (some country that I now feel a connection with)
It's not a long read, please take some time to read it, it kind of explains how well meaning "help" sometimes has long term, unforeseen (by some) consequences.

https://scottvawser.com/2008/10/15/great-story/

 

[Mackka]

A very interesting read Dave and no different in some white communities whereby whole generations are getting handouts with no intentions of getting a job. Sad really. Thanks for posting. Mackka

 

[Davent]

Often in these communities, there are no jobs and never will be any jobs.
In town however, there are. The will to relocate to town is not there, but the will to visit town, to party .....is.

 

[Mackka]

Here we go again and footy season hasn't even started with two NRL players being arrested in Canberra overnight and one spending the night in the lockup. These two blokes are Double Trouble.

 

[Flash Jack]

Yeah Maccka, these testosteroned young blokes are told by the Media they are hero's. The Media also tells us, the general public, that they are hero's. This bullsh*t obviously fuels their ego's and pushes them into things that their mum's would be ashamed of.

 

[Grey Panner]

Often in these communities, there are no jobs and never will be any jobs.
In town however, there are. The will to relocate to town is not there, but the will to visit town, to party .....is.

That is precisely the problem. There are no jobs in the remote communities.
This is because the elders are still committed to the old culture. Many of the young people are ready, willing and able to engage in modern pursuits but are discouraged by the elders who remain deeply and sincerely attached to the memories of their long-gone ancestors.
Stone age knowledge and skills do not prepare young people for entry to modern society.
If people wish to continue to live in remote communities they must develop self-reliance.This could be done but only at the cost of abandoning the ways of their fore-fathers.
Goat and cattle husbandry could supply meat, milk and leather. Kitchen gardens, with irrigation and fertilization, could supply fruit and vegetables,Waterholes could support fish and geese. Cottage industries could support the manufacture of useful goods. Mineral deposits could be worked by the inhabitants, not by outside entities. Young people could be trained in animal husbandry, horticulture and manual trades.Training in the professions would follow.
These things, however, are foreign concepts and will not willingly be adopted.
They can not be forced on the communities because top-down innovation does not work. Change must be initiated at grass-roots level if it is to develop and while ever the elders cling to their old memories there will be no change.
An extra voice in Canberra is not the answer because that is just another top-down initiative.
Until the elders are prepared to accept that they are the ones who must change there will be no improvement.

 

[Mackka]

Yep thats about my understanding to mate!!

 

[Davent]

That is precisely the problem. There are no jobs in the remote communities.
This is because the elders are still committed to the old culture. Many of the young people are ready, willing and able to engage in modern pursuits but are discouraged by the elders who remain deeply and sincerely attached to the memories of their long-gone ancestors.
Stone age knowledge and skills do not prepare young people for entry to modern society.
If people wish to continue to live in remote communities they must develop self-reliance.This could be done but only at the cost of abandoning the ways of their fore-fathers.
Goat and cattle husbandry could supply meat, milk and leather. Kitchen gardens, with irrigation and fertilization, could supply fruit and vegetables,Waterholes could support fish and geese. Cottage industries could support the manufacture of useful goods. Mineral deposits could be worked by the inhabitants, not by outside entities. Young people could be trained in animal husbandry, horticulture and manual trades.Training in the professions would follow.
These things, however, are foreign concepts and will not willingly be adopted.
They can not be forced on the communities because top-down innovation does not work. Change must be initiated at grass-roots level if it is to develop and while ever the elders cling to their old memories there will be no change.
An extra voice in Canberra is not the answer because that is just another top-down initiative.
Until the elders are prepared to accept that they are the ones who must change there will be no improvement.

Sadly, some the biggest Aboriginal communities are the prisons.
The elders are not listened to much any more. A lot of the elders have grown fat on royalty money, that doesn't always filter down to the chain in a fair way.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/groote-eylandt-trust-fund-what-happened/6905600
Then there are the people, advocates, who want more funding, some are genuine and really want to help, and are doing really good work, and others, are just creating high paying jobs for them selves.

 

[Mackka]

My wife went to do a bit of shopping today and noticed legs of lamb at half price, fantastic but also noted the ubd was tomorrow. Shame as she said there was plenty and will go to waste.

 

[Simmo]

My wife went to do a bit of shopping today and noticed legs of lamb at half price, fantastic but also noted the ubd was tomorrow. Shame as she said there was plenty and will go to waste.

Chuck it in the freezer??!

 

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[Grey Panner]

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[Hawkear]

Chuck it in the freezer??!

My wife and I are notorious scavengers, skulking the aisles of supermarkets for their "reduced to clear" treasure spots.
Our local Woolies is a fairly small store by woolies standards and seems to have more than their fair share of items. The reduced to clear items are usually meat but never out of date just close to date and we buy them up and just freeze them.
Yes we eat cheap but well and are still alive.
One find was a pork shoulder roast for about half price ($11-12 from memory). It sat in the freezer for a while and came out only when our old fridge died last week. Had almost forgotten about it. Cooked up beautifully with good crackling and we each had two main meals and two lunches (Pork rolls) - that's 8 meals all up.

 

[Dave's Office]

Pesky vermin have started attacking my peaches, hopefully the rubber snakes will catch them and eat them

 

[Goldfreak]

The ones making the decisions on the future of these people are the ones being rewarded financially when they reoffend

Agree some do very well out of it and Its just buisness to them with. Never under estimate how cynical some groups can be. Expecially when there is big $$$$ involved.