How warm is it?

[thedigger]

WE are going into a cold period,the sun is quieting down,and it drives our weather.

http://notrickszone.com/2015/08/12/...-cold-from-2025-to-2050/#sthash.uS3M3yU3.dpbs

Regards Frank

 

[GaryO]

http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=1

while we are at it . Some more uncomfortable reading

 

[ozziii]

Great fishing in the Thowgla, Nariel, Upper Murray, Gibbo to name just a few. Yeah, great hunting as well as long as you ignore the wild dogs that are about in greater numbers than ever. Not sure about detecting up that way, only got into detecting since moving here. It's a great little country town Corryong i reckon.

Yeah plenty of fishing area's up there, lots of rules & regulations as well, specially the blue ribbon streams.
We used to also hunt the dogs on a few properties, probably the hardest animal of all to hunt I think, but we got a few.
Certainly sends a massive shiver through your body when you hear half a dozen howling only a hundred metres from the cabin at 3am, only to get up & see them all running up the paddock in the moonlight. You're right though, its a nice little place up there & through the high country.

 

[Metamorphic]

Imho denying climate change is similar to denying the aerosols and ozone link.its proven we can make substantial atmospheric changes.
The first link between co2 and warming was made in 1896. I think it's safe to assume the research back then was not considered in a monatised framework and was impartial.

We put out a poofteenth of emisions compared to countries like China and India.

The fact is if we shut down Australia tomorrow....completely, it would not make one iota of a difference to climate change ( Co2 emissions)

Your argument for climate change is based purely on political correctness....what gets the votes in Oz and they have the un-initiated sucked in.

You argue science but you dont even know what the chemical symbol is for Carbon dioxide....

Millions of years of evolution will see our planet survive, long after the human race is wiped!

 

[Brian]

Imho denying climate change is similar to denying the aerosols and ozone link.its proven we can make substantial atmospheric changes.
The first link between co2 and warming was made in 1896. I think it's safe to assume the research back then was not considered in a monatised framework and was impartial.

We put out a poofteenth of emisions compared to countries like China and India.

The fact is if we shut down Australia tomorrow....completely, it would not make one iota of a difference to climate change ( Co2 emissions)

Your argument for climate change is based purely on political correctness....what gets the votes in Oz and they have the un-initiated sucked in.

You argue science but you dont even know what the chemical symbol is for Carbon dioxide....

Millions of years of evolution will see our planet survive, long after the human race is wiped!

Oh Sorry i didn't use capitals for carbon and oxygen. Did you know that correcting somebody like that is a form of troll like behaviour?

See this is the really poor level of argument that really irritates me. it lacks any reference, its vague and it is a personal attack on me, as opposed to arguing the topic. really.. is this as good as you can come up with?

 

[Brian]

http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=1

while we are at it . Some more uncomfortable reading

WE are going into a cold period,the sun is quieting down,and it drives our weather.

http://notrickszone.com/2015/08/12/...-cold-from-2025-to-2050/#sthash.uS3M3yU3.dpbs

Regards Frank

yeah interesting reads.. Obviously there are drivers for climate change outside carbon dioxide, and the suns impact is a big one. Still, it does seem foolhardy that we change the planets atmosphere by increasing the levels of O=C=O (sorry subscripts don't seem to work, Oxygen has a valence of 6 which means it double bonds to the carbon to complete the electron shell out to a complete 8 so I used equal signs) as we are.

The potential for problems with these changes to atmospheric content, not even mentioning Ocean Acidity.. to my mind its a no brainer to be at least concerned about these things as I drive in my turbo diesel car. Cognative diffidence at its best!

 

[GypsyGoldAu]

I heard recently that 60+% (stated as 2/3rds) of climate changing emissions (methane?) is caused from ruminating sheep & cattle....(i'd imagine camels come into this equation as well?) That was on a Catalyst ABC program that was researching a new type of feed lot to assist in reduction of emissions.

Guess we ALL need to change our diet?.... fwiw

I'm no scientist by a long shot, and i do 'recognise' climate change..... i'm just not sold on "our" specific contribution to it. How many cycles of change has the history of the world seen after all? We will most likely have more "ice ages" in the future as much as we will have drought.... but we ARE a virus detrimental to the 'natural' world with our greed and veracity.

GGA

 

[SCROUNGER]

I'm not buying into the 'climate change' debate going on here gypsygoldau, and what i'm about to say is not directed at anyone in the previous posts.
I do agree that as humans we are our own worst enemies when it comes to shiting in our own backyards. But whether you believe in divine creation or evolution, we are here, and we are doing what we do because we are the top of the food chain and have evolved to that point. If we weren't meant to evolve and be 'like we are now and into the future' then why do we exist?
I don't think we shouldn't evolve just to fit into the 'natural scheme of things' as some would want us to do. I mean, what time in history should we have stopped evolving just so we don't use anymore resources?
I do however find it interesting to see that the ones doing the most bleating about ruining the planet are also the ones (often in big cities)using the most resources.
That's my rant for the day. And i'm still bloody cold!!! :lol: :lol:

 

[Metamorphic]

Oh Sorry i didn't use capitals for carbon and oxygen. Did you know that correcting somebody like that is a form of troll like behaviour?

See this is the really poor level of argument that really irritates me. it lacks any reference, its vague and it is a personal attack on me, as opposed to arguing the topic. really.. is this as good as you can come up with?

Hehe...troll like behaviour is sprouting about something on our forum that you really know little about which seems to be all you can do. You supply no scientific evidence to back your trolling. its just talk with folks like you, and what you read in the media has convinced you your on a good argument. lol

Really, Is this the best you can come up with? Have you been spending too much time on Facebook listening and being washed by those that claim to know all?

We are here to talk about finding gold, not your views on what is right or wrong for the enviroment.

You should be trolling your ***** on here http://www.rfcc2015.ait.asia/

Have a nice day.

Sorry SCROUNGER, didnt mean to imbark on your thread....back to you mate!

 

[Heatho]

Coldest Winter in sydney in a long time I reckon, we've been getting down to 3.5-5 deg C quite regularly and I'm less than 5km from the coast. Getting warmer though was only 7 last night. Bring on Spring.

 

[Metamorphic]

Its not so much you personally Brian....its the hypocrisy of your argument!

Im betting you probably own a motor car, travel by plane to take the family on holidays, power your house with electricity, heat it with fossil fuels and keep your food in a fridge.

Guess what mate, under your argument, your actually adding the severity of climate change whilst all the time preaching to us how bad we are.

Its not your fault, its just part of the industrial revolution!

 

[thedigger]

Hi Brian
You need to look at this and you will see that we are being "CONNNED" by people who want to control us and make "MONEY" at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4hbKF5-qUE&feature=youtu.be

Regards Frank