Grubs And Their Guns.

Prospecting Australia

Help Support Prospecting Australia:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
When I was hunting in my youth it was believed that if you were a member of the Australian Shooters organization you were a responsible person.
However, to become a member you only needed to fill out a form with your personal information. They had no idea who you were and they happily handed out their memberships willy-nilly.

I would also like to mention an incident that happened to us while traveling to a favorite hunting location years ago.
Driving down a dirt country road, we came around a 90 degree bend to be confronted by two rifles pointed at our windscreen by a pair idiots that were shooting holes in the sign indicating the 90 degree bend. If one of them had pulled the trigger as we came round that bend, myself or one of my passengers might have lost their life.
If we could calculate the number of bullet holes in all the road signs in this country, the number would surely be many millions.
What a responsible lot of gun owners we are in this country! And we criticize the Yanks?
 
Chiron52 said:
When I was hunting in my youth it was believed that if you were a member of the Australian Shooters organization you were a responsible person.
However, to become a member you only needed to fill out a form with your personal information. They had no idea who you were and they happily handed out their memberships willy-nilly.

I would also like to mention an incident that happened to us while traveling to a favorite hunting location years ago.
Driving down a dirt country road, we came around a 90 degree bend to be confronted by two rifles pointed at our windscreen by a pair idiots that were shooting holes in the sign indicating the 90 degree bend. If one of them had pulled the trigger as we came round that bend, myself or one of my passengers might have lost their life.
If we could calculate the number of bullet holes in all the road signs in this country, the number would surely be many millions.
What a responsible lot of gun owners we are in this country! And we criticize the Yanks?
Click to expand...

Yeah I'm nearly 50 and saw this (signs with bullet holes in them) from the mid 70's and it still happens today. The incident that you bought to our attention is nothing short of disgraceful and is no measure of the whole community of firearms owners. The best we can hope / pray for out of this is the people responsible end up in court and dealt with. If this happens the affected community can rebuild and move on. I just hope the responsible person is then visited weekly for the duration they remain in that community.
 
Yes theres a bad element of owners who really dont see the consequences of there actions. Many years ago a friend of my mothers was tragically killed by a stray bullet while driving. This was a extremely rare case and a long time ago, I was still a kid when it happened but can still remember it. Heading off topic I know but ide rather take my chances with a responsible shooter than most of the complete mungbeans we risk our life on the roads with everyday now
 
My dad is 95yo and has dementia. He is in a nursing home and shares a room with his older brother, who is 98.
A few months ago, someone brought some animals to the home to meet the residents. There were rabbits, guinea pigs, etc AND an alpaca. My dad has a photo on his bedroom wall of him patting the alpaca. He couldn't stop talking about it for days. Such a lovely animal. How could anyone slaughter such a beautiful creature? As I said in my previous post .... some one is probably strutting around and big noting himself as a big game hunter for killing the alpacas. BIG HERO! :mad:
 
Lets hope he/her/them are strutting around cause that will bring him/her/them to lots of Peoples attention...

Yes David, they are one of the most enjoyable animals I have ever patted.. :D O:) .. Till they spit in your face.... :p

LW...
 
Bjay said:
Yeah I agree Rob. Just the ice heads with guns got me. Made it look to me like they just give out guns to anyone which is not really the case.
Some people shouldnt have them but it seems to me that nowadays every time something bad happens and a gun is involved it brings down the credibility of 99.9% of people who legitimately and responsibly own them. :Y:
Click to expand...

Bjay you are so right and the anti firearm/hunting media people do not help. Things like this just give them more ammo to use against the genuine law abiding firearm owners.
 
LoneWolf said:
Lets hope he/her/them are strutting around cause that will bring him/her/them to lots of Peoples attention...

Yes David, they are one of the most enjoyable animals I have ever patted.. :D O:) .. Till they spit in your face.... :p

LW...
Click to expand...

They are great for keeping foxs away from sheep. They can and will chase them down until the fox either takes off or ends up dead.
 
Senseless killing in any form is exactly that :N: But all the gun laws in the land only make it hard or stop the responsible persons from having one, the scroats will always be able to obtain one when and if they wish :mad: Then the other end of the problem is in my opinion, that the penalties for such acts are far to lenient. The system needs to be hardened up :Y:
 
Putting a slightly different twist on things: Friendly Alpacas come to the fence to meet the shooter, shooter is unpleasant SOB so Alpacas spit at him, goes off to get gun and take revenge, or shooter's dog strays into Alpaca's paddock, Alpacas attack, (ancient genetic habit) as they do to foxes and stray dogs, kill the dog, shooter gets their gun and takes revenge.

Don't get me wrong, there is no excuse for the shootings, simply looking at possible stimuli to a sick mind.

Things like the kill instinct come from their highly protective instinct with mountain lions in the Andes likewise, the spit is from the Female-Male rejection and hierarchy challenge.

That said, there is no excuse for what has happened and the police need to find this A**&@.
 
growing up in on farms in the 60s and seventies I seen more morons with guns and the damage they cause than Ive seen responsible civilian gun ownership. from killed and wounded live stock to shot out fuel tanks, tractors and road signs. during duck season many farm kids were not allowed outside in the evening. since Ive grown up a bit. Ive been on the wrong end of the barrel a couple of times didnt do my head much good. I am a firm believer now that guns are for farm use, law enforcement and servicemen and nothing more. I know there are people who will strongly disagree with me but all I can say is if you could see what I have seen and cleaned up you would not go near a gun
 
These idiots would have been 'thrill'killers, just like the idiots who got into the Adelaide Zoo and slaughtered many of the animals in children's petting zoo some years ago. When caught you can almost guarantee the courts will go soft on them if they are juveniles, if they are adults they'll come up with the "mental health, drug influenced, poor family background defence"
 
madtuna said:
Seen it and still strongly disagree
Click to expand...

Yes I'd have to be with MT on this and my mate was one of those shot and killed by Martin Bryant at Port Arthur. Tony Nightingale RIP.
Ban the guns ................... then ban the Hunting bows, then ban the knives, then the sling shots, then baseball bats and then .................... you still haven't addressed the problem ?
 
shakergt said:
LoneWolf said:
Lets hope he/her/them are strutting around cause that will bring him/her/them to lots of Peoples attention...

Yes David, they are one of the most enjoyable animals I have ever patted.. :D O:) .. Till they spit in your face.... :p

LW...
Click to expand...

They are great for keeping foxs away from sheep. They can and will chase them down until the fox either takes off or ends up dead.
Click to expand...
I was wondering how Alpacas would kill a fox or wild dog.... do they gang up and kick and trample their intruders to death? and would a single Alpaca have a go.... obviously I am not familiar with them, just curious.
 
Yes I'd have to be with MT on this and my mate was one of those shot and killed by Martin Bryant at Port Arthur. Tony Nightingale RIP.
Ban the guns ................... then ban the Hunting bows, then ban the knives, then the sling shots, then baseball bats and then .................... you still haven't addressed the problem ?
Click to expand...
:Y: X1.
Cars/trucks/vans seem to be the tool of mass destruction at present....... where do you draw the line.
As has been said "take the weapons away from the law abiding citizens & only the crooks will have them".

The alpacas strike out with their hooves to protect themselves or their charges.
Rob.
 
I don't know how you would even sleep at night after shooting Alpacas in the head at point-blank range, Lonewolf is right there has to be more to it than thrill killing, more of a message being sent.

I still have a few rifles, I go hunting every now and then, but I do it to fill a tuckerbox freezer with rabbit and roo for the dogs, I don't really like paying $10/kg for roo dog meat at Woolies that's loaded with sulfites and other preservatives, god knows what else.

Sometimes I'm lucky enough to get a deer for myself, I don't shoot doe or even big bucks for that matter unless he's getting pretty old, I stick to young spikers. I used to shoot dozens of roo's when I was young but eventually, you lose the stomach for it. Same with foxes and wild dogs I used to shoot so many foxes and the odd dog and hand in the bounty at the PP Board.

I remember going shooting with a then mate, and for the first time, I spotted an albino eastern grey. I said to him let's move on, leave it be. I turned my back and heard the crack of the rifle, he dropped it just for the hell of it. He was not even interested in what I had said and then just walked off with total disregard to seeing maybe a once in a lifetime animal. I did take the skin of the animal, thinking at least something will come out of it. I told the bloke that was the last time we would ever go shooting together.

Another time some idiots got onto our property and shot a Santa Gertrudis bullock I hand raised with a .22LR. This bullock was so tame I used to ride around on his back or he would even let me sit on his head and take me for a spin. When we found him he was somehow still alive and he had around 9 bullet holes in him, mostly gutshot, some in the legs one through a lung. Was not a good day.

One more story, yeah....I know I have a few. Anyway I was living down at Kanimbla and the property had an easement through it, the owners behind us were cashed up bogan yahoos from Sydneys western suburbs driving around on quads and Polaris ATV's in army camo. It was late one night around 1:30 am and all of a sudden all hell breaks loose, these idiots were randomly firing I'm almost certain semi-auto SKS 7.6239mm (distinctive sound) at kangaroos in paddocks all around. 2 rounds hit the house, lucky they were ricochets, they still gouged out the bricks though. I was laying on the floor covering my 3-year-old nephew before the shots stopped and I put him in the bathtub. Cops were called but these ********* were already gone and by the time they were questioned over it all they had hidden the rifles and denied it all even happening.
 
When guns are outlawed only Outlaws will have guns, I don't want to be an outlaw.

I've never seen an Alpaca defend itself or the stock their looking after but I'm glad we got a couple. A few years back we had 10 ewes in lamb all dropped and only 1 survived since we've included the Alpaca's we've had 100% survival rate :Y:. Just sold off 50 odd head so the Alpaca's have definitely earnt their keep because they are so quiet and hardy we're most likely going to get a few more. Kate will be busy making socks, beanies and a few cardies for the grandkids :Y:.
 

Similar threads

G
"The Berrima Axe Murderer"
Replies
6
Views
2K
Guest
G

Latest posts

Top