SunriseBoy said:
Well I think your right again. I was watching European videos of it in action. I guess I'll move on getting an Oz Pro.
John, will you tell me what kind of depth are the boys getting with the Oz Pro, please? I've not seen much on that.
Well the trouble is people always Test and compare the SPP/SL's to the Pro saying there is less than an inch difference, Is That True ?? Yes On Small Targets, BUT, Once the targets get up around small coin sized targets that's when the Pro really Pulls away and using the Pro on the Beach for coins and Rings it will go down seriously Deep even using the standard Coil, On bigger items they both will go very deep,
You have seen that Nokta Video well that's how A High Gain VLF behaves in mild Ground, A few months back I tried to tell folks here that the MXT with the 12"/300 coil would match a PI machine in normal soils and people thought I was having a lend of my self well that Video proves what I said was right. But don't try and compare a VLF Air test to a PI Air test, PI's Do Not air test well no matter what the Brand even the 5000 won't air test well but put it in hot Ground and a whole new world opens up.
Now that being said,, Australian Soil on Average is nothing like the rest of the world, it can turn from sandy loam to dark brown to blood Red hot clay in the same paddock, and when it rains the water in the soil can up set a PI machine but in normal soil with a VLF once the surface has dried within the top inch or so a VLF will actually go deeper because the soil is damp, but if the soil is fairly dry a VLF will find coins ranging from 6 to 12" +/- ??. but not in that Hot red dirt.
What the SPP/SL gives you is a machine that can gives you that depth but it does it in hot ground and the bigger the Item/coin the deeper it see's, It will see coke can sized item 2 - 3 feet deep and bigger things 4 to 5 feet deep using the standard 12" coil, and the Pro will do it as well As the target size gets bigger the difference gets bigger, but at our age do we really want to be digging 4 deep holes ?? and with the Pro and the GP/GPX and the ATX those kind of depths are not uncommon just to find a piece of junk, In hot ground in the US guys are digging belt buckles at 2 or 3 feet using the Pro,
Before you buy the Pro you need to make 2 lists stating your goals and the for's and against's, The Pro is deeper and it has a faster and more forgiving sweep speed along with a longer battery run time and GS Australia have another bigger battery with a 50% more run time than the normal Pro battery, The Pro is Heavier but it has about the best balance of any machine ever made, The machine in that Video is not balanced, and if Gold is your Target the Pro will go deep and the larger the Nugget the deeper it will go.
If it was me I would grab some lead and melt it and just pour it in a dozen different sized lumps on the soil and when they have cooled down I would take them out in the bush in hot ground and bury them at different depths going from small shallow to big deeper lumps and the reason I say pour it on the ground is because nuggets are not round like coins or shaped like sinkers so they resemble the odd natural nugget shapes, and make them up to about 5 ozt/155,5 grams, also this will show you how hard it is to dig in the bush and also how deep your SL will go and then decide if you want the Pro,
Personally I would be thinking about adding a VLF as well as your PI, like the MXT Pro/All Pro or the Nokta Fors Core, so you can sift through the junk. not the Racer, because I think the fors core is the newer version of that machine in the Video and if you get the pro pack you will get that big coil he used in the video and a smaller 5" coils as well as the standard coil,
Don't think a PI is the last word in detectors because they are not, because in a lot of places a PI can be a PIA and in old mining camps or tailing piles a VLF will run rings round it because of the junk there, for all out prospecting in OZ a PI is King but add in the human factor (junk) and by the end of the day that machine could end up becoming a tree Ornament, My PI's have more than enough power but would I trade my MXT "no chance". that's the machine I use to check out unknown areas and I will always find something with it and it the ground is too hot then that is when you break out the PI,
hope this helps,, john
