⭐ Gold Detecting Show'n Tell

[Hawkear]

Hi Hawkear,

Sorry if I am "telling grandma how to suck eggs" but it sounds like you would prefer to have the Threshold on whilst you have the 6000 in Auto or Auto+ ? You can do that by long pressing the Normal/Difficult button for 2.5 seconds.

I really disliked the Threshold off when I had the 6000 as I am sure it misses targets, but my mother only ever uses hers with Threshold off as she hates the noise.

Again, sorry if I'm telling you something you already know

Not at all Northeast, Relatively new to the 6 and learning by experience. Like most guys I’m a “who needs to read a manual guy” and hadn’t read that the soil button was a way of turning on threshold in auto and vice versa turning it off in manual.
I actually prefer to have the threshold off and not having to continually deal with noise variations. I used to run my 2100 and most of my earlier machines silent by turning down the threshold until barely audible and then just twitching the threshold control until just below audibility. Worked well for me.
After your post I went out and tried the auto settings with threshold on but also experimented with the maximum manual setting with threshold off. That produced three small nuggets from the Hard hills which is another very thrashed area of Wedderburn. I did however seem to get a bit of interference that was not evident in the silent auto settings.
A bit more work to be done there, but thanks for the advice.

 

[Hawkear]

Yesterday's result. 13 bits for 4.8gr. My best for a long time. Getting to grips with the sounds of the 6. Pity as have to head home today.

 

[grubstake]

Yesterday's result. 13 bits for 4.8gr. My best for a long time. Getting to grips with the sounds of the 6. Pity as have to head home today.

That's a brilliant day for heavily hunted Wedderburn in 2024, Geoff - wow!
That 6K is working very well indeed for you - it's magic.

 

[wiley coyote]

Good finds Hawkear. What depth were they?

 

[Hawkear]

Good finds Hawkear. What depth were they?

The large bit a faint but clear down signal a good 12" under tree roots in a partially dug hole in white pipe clay. The two other gram sized bits also down signals around 6' to 8"in yellow clay. The rest at varying shallower depths. All were found in ground worked by old timers.
Whilst not keeping an accurate account of depths, I got the feeling that they were just a little deeper than my normal finds possibly due to the yellow/white clay in which they were found.

 

[Northeast]

I got the feeling that they were just a little deeper than my normal finds possibly due to the yellow/white clay

Are you able to run in Normal at all or does it make things too noisy. I tried Normal many times because people kept saying that it makes such a difference but there were very few places (actually none that I can think of) where Normal could be used comfortably.

Jonathan Porter had said there was very little difference between Normal and Difficult when it came to small gold sensitivity, which I am guessing means that Normal may give more advantage on the larger targets, if the ground allows for that mode to be used.

(Found Jonathan's comment - explains it better than me ) "Small target sensitivity comes from the Difficult mode, so in Normal the timing is a blend of Normal and Difficult. If the gold is primarily tiny then there will be little difference between Normal and Difficult so do-not unnecessarily put up with ground noise using Normal in the hopes of achieving more sensitivity on tiny gold." From here detectorprospector.com/topic/16163-reg-wilson-jp-gpx-6000-commentary-tips/#comment-166827

Great work the past few days

 

[Hawkear]

Are you able to run in Normal at all or does it make things too noisy. I tried Normal many times because people kept saying that it makes such a difference but there were very few places (actually none that I can think of) where Normal could be used comfortably.

Jonathan Porter had said there was very little difference between Normal and Difficult when it came to small gold sensitivity, which I am guessing means that Normal may give more advantage on the larger targets, if the ground allows for that mode to be used.

(Found Jonathan's comment - explains it better than me ) "Small target sensitivity comes from the Difficult mode, so in Normal the timing is a blend of Normal and Difficult. If the gold is primarily tiny then there will be little difference between Normal and Difficult so do-not unnecessarily put up with ground noise using Normal in the hopes of achieving more sensitivity on tiny gold." From here detectorprospector.com/topic/16163-reg-wilson-jp-gpx-6000-commentary-tips/#comment-166827

Great work the past few days

Just trying to get the 6000 to run as quietly as possible so that I can concentrate better on a lesser number of sounds. Running in difficult would defeat that purpose.
Maybe with that approach I was able to pick up signals that others may have overlooked had they been overwhelmed with too much noise to analyse. The relative paucity of shot I picked up seemed to indicate the area had been well detected before.
I think that gold detecting is very much a human listening game as a technology game. Minelab seem to have given us a very good bit of technology and its up to us to use our listening and analysing skills to take advantage of that.
Rather than take away space from the purpose of this post, which is to display finds, delving into an individual's ideas about what constitutes good listening and analysing skills or techniques to determine whether to dig or not to dig may be a subject worthy of another topic. I am sure there would be as many different ideas as there are detectors and detectorists.

 

[Ausgold]

Nice gold Hawkear, interesting comments you made.

 

[Moneybox]

Just trying to get the 6000 to run as quietly as possible so that I can concentrate better on a lesser number of sounds. Running in difficult would defeat that purpose.
Maybe with that approach I was able to pick up signals that others may have overlooked had they been overwhelmed with too much noise to analyse. The relative paucity of shot I picked up seemed to indicate the area had been well detected before.
I think that gold detecting is very much a human listening game as a technology game. Minelab seem to have given us a very good bit of technology and its up to us to use our listening and analysing skills to take advantage of that.
Rather than take away space from the purpose of this post, which is to display finds, delving into an individual's ideas about what constitutes good listening and analysing skills or techniques to determine whether to dig or not to dig may be a subject worthy of another topic. I am sure there would be as many different ideas as there are detectors and detectorists.

I took a bit of time away from treasure hunting to find a few nuggets and while at it I was trying the same. Unfortunately there were not enough targets to give me an end result. I have a friend who regularly detects with his wife and friend. His wife works without threshold and consistently out performs both guys. It may come back to my theory why I'm never totally satisfied with my results from the GPX6000. It finds so many targets that I don't move on to find the few bigger pieces. Running without threshold would remove a lot of the weak signals so perhaps she avoids a lot of tiny time consuming small targets and brings home more big gold simply because she covers more ground in the same time.



At my current rate of less than a nugget an hour that $4000 ounce seems a long way off

 

[Mackka]

I don’t know mate at a gram an hour that would make a nice little paycheck for 40 hours playing in the dirt outside.

 

[OzzieAu]

Just back home from a trip to Avoca and scored a few tiddlers with the AlgoForce and 12x8 Evo. Also picked up a nice little speccie. I was happy with the way the 12x8 performed as I've heard that some are problematic on the Algo

 

[grubstake]

Just back home from a trip to Avoca and scored a few tiddlers with the AlgoForce and 12x8 Evo. Also picked up a nice little speccie. I was happy with the way the 12x8 performed as I've heard that some are problematic on the Algo

"Tiddlers" they may be, but I'm a sucker for highly water-worn nuggets and I reckon these are very pretty gold - well done.

 

[Bully1]

Just back home from a trip to Avoca and scored a few tiddlers with the AlgoForce and 12x8 Evo. Also picked up a nice little speccie. I was happy with the way the 12x8 performed as I've heard that some are problematic on the Algo
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All golds good. Nice.
Are you using the new 12x8 or older. Not sure if the newer for the Algo is out yet but there was one to match it being made.
I had the new Sadie on my Algo made for it. It worked good but I wasn't a fan of the Algo I had and sold it.
What weight are those bits if you don't mind me asking please?

 

[OzzieAu]

All golds good. Nice.
Are you using the new 12x8 or older. Not sure if the newer for the Algo is out yet but there was one to match it being made.
I had the new Sadie on my Algo made for it. It worked good but I wasn't a fan of the Algo I had and sold it.
What weight are those bits if you don't mind me asking please?

It’s an older 12x8, but I’m lucky it’s a good stable one and runs quite smooth on the Algo . Don’t think the MK II 12x8 is out just yet. Would be interesting to compare mine to one when they are available.
That gold is 0.01 to 0.45 gm. All up about 2 gm.

 

[Bully1]

It’s an older 12x8, but I’m lucky it’s a good stable one and runs quite smooth on the Algo . Don’t think the MK II 12x8 is out just yet. Would be interesting to compare mine to one when they are available.
That gold is 0.01 to 0.45 gm. All up about 2 gm.

Ahh, I thought it would have been out by now. Must have been some tweaks needed. I was running a pre release Sadie 2 just before I sold and was going to have a run on the 12 but dropped out of it no longer having the Algo.
From several goes on the Sadie 2.

 

[OzzieAu]

Ahh, I thought it would have been out by now. Must have been some tweaks needed. I was running a pre release Sadie 2 just before I sold and was going to have a run on the 12 but dropped out of it no longer having the Algo.
From several goes on the Sadie 2.
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Just curious as to why you offloaded your AlgoForce. Did it not meet your expectations?

 

[Bully1]

Just curious as to why you offloaded your AlgoForce. Did it not meet your expectations?

Hi mate. I had to buy other screws to hold the head unit on as the supplied were too short to do up by several mm, they didn't fit! Why send me that when they are way too short? I was readjusting the shaft every few minutes as it kept twisting and that was ridiculous. Solid plastic coil connecting end like a cheap chinese thing that would fall out and apart when swapping coils? Solid plastic handle no foam!? Amongst other things. Basically I found it an insult to the intelligence paying for it the way it was.
I had the V1 and it felt like an unfinished product which it was. Im sure some of those issues have been addressed in the later ones but being sent that, the way it was, was appalling.
One coil I tried that worked very well, stable and smooth with pretty good depth too was the older 12 round Advantage. We vs'd it against the 12 evo and you'd have chosen the Advantage every time. The newer NF coils too are a little heavier than the older ones. That sadie there is heavier than the Mk1. It was very stable though and very sensitive.
If I still had it I'd have hunted up a 12 Advantage, mate wouldn't sell his for anything
Perhaps had I got the more recent Algos without the issues I had I may have held onto it because technically it worked ok.
I know, a guy told me you could have done this with the shaft and you got the screws that fitted, you could have got some foam. Even spend more on a propper shaft which they now have. Nope, what I had was a thorn in my side in principle and I was glad to not have to look at it any longer.
Be interesting to see how the Nokta fares.
Good luck with yours