Who makes the most money out of beef cattle.

[busted knuckle mining]

tags are record onto body tags.

 

[Zorgs]

The morons that shop at Coles and Woolies are raping themselves. Not only are they paying a ridiculous premium for meat, like mentioned the butcher's are going out of business and hiking their prices to stay afloat. Don't even get me started on the loss of brands and the self branding going on in those shops.

I go to a vietnamese butcher for my pork, it is 100 times better than the slimy stinky **** that the big guys sell. Take pork belly, $32/kg at coles the other day, vietnamese butcher about $7.50/kg! The big guys are starting to sell lower quality cuts for premium prices.

The modern Australian seems to be mostly convenience driven and happy that a supermarket in 10-20 years will have less choice than 1960 USSR.

 

[Digger Danny]

Whats stopping a producer, from getting a licence to slaughter, get the meat inspected, and selling direct to shops, or the public? Forming a co-operative with other farmers, and share the costs? Package the meat, have it sent by courier, or have their own shop outlets? Australia is a lucky country, but spoiled by greedy companies.

This has been done but for the small fella it is hard to compete with the big corporations,2 off the bigger producers having a go are Acton beef and the McDonalds family supper butcher and good on them I wish them the best off luck. There are some more but I am not certain who they are so I will not name in case I get it wrong. Also remember the producer is good at their core business in most cases and to go down the paddock to plate side of things takes money, marketing, management,finding qualified staff and so on not to forget unfair completion from you know who.

Cheers, DD

 

[rocketaroo]

Lucky I love chicken, because its afforable. Never liked pork, and it gives ya the runs. Love lamb chops, but refuse to pay the price.

 

[Digger Danny]

A lot of the obsticles for the famer to produce and sell directly to the consumer are obsticles of government regulation.
There is also an unnecessary accreditation scheme in place that adds further costs through its exclusive practices and its monopoly over most of the meat processing and transport companies with in the industry.

I do not think the transport company's are making much. Cost of truck, trailer, fuel, wages, a depot, maintenance, tyres, Gov fees such as rego, Insurance, unhooking road trains to pull single trailers through non road train areas, lost off staff to the mines I think you know what I am saying.

Cheers, DD

 

[Digger Danny]

we do our own meat and the flavors' are great lamb tastes like lamb , beef tastes like beef , I have had beef and lamb from a supermarket and they both tasted the same , kinda like soggy cardboard with gristle .

Mate, most are finished at feed lots on the same ration, I still prefer grass feed over anything as it taste like real meat.

Cheers,DD

 

[lewy]

Up here in the territory most of the big stations are owned by china,The cattle are transported to the chinese leased port onto a chinese owned ship and sent to china.Nothing against the chinese people just pissed off with the system that allows it.

 

[Digger Danny]

one of the stupid costs are the electronic ear tags which we are made put in them before they leave the farm roughly $2 a tag , even when they go direct to the abattoirs they must have them or we get a $45 fine per tag, and the first thing taken off the animal is the skin with the ears on it. the tags only have our property identification number in it nothing else.

At least yours are staying in :lol: , it only helps with elec scanners, You are right another cost and you still have to brand and earmark. The beast dies in the paddock and it stays on the system for how long ?

Cheers, DD

 

[aussiefarmer]

I would love to know how much tax and levies are adding to the finished product ,
lets say they sell through the yards

farmer = taxed on the sale , sale yard levies , mla levies, insurances
trucker = taxed on income for the trip , road levies , insurances
agent = taxed on commission made , insurances
buyer = taxed on his wages
trucker= again
abattoir = taxed in many ways , insurances
trucker= again
butcher=taxed on sale ,insurances

So basically the profit is all going out in taxes , insurances , levies , red tape registrations and licensing fees.
does that read roughly right ? if so the government is making more out of beef than anyone and doesn't even handle the product.

 

[Digger Danny]

traceability thats what the ear tags are for.....meat can be traced from butcher to paddock.

Thats why we use brands, can not be removed/adjusted(easy). I know what you are saying as some graziers have adopted into their herd management but it is another cost.

 

[rocketaroo]

Farms should be where the consumers live. Coastal areas plenty of rain, and good soils. No need to transport meat long distances.

 

[Digger Danny]

Folks I am adding my bit to a post as i read it in order, I know after this is done it may be covered further down the thread. I am please about the amount of responses so far. I will just add this little bit at the moment from my experience, in some cases the worker on the station is not the highest paid, but it is not the type of job you are in for the money it is the life style, the mate ship and animal skills that you form. I can say I myself have worked in heat/dust and rain/mud very hard for no where near what a brickies labour gets (no offense to the brickies labour) and enjoyed it 99% of the time, the best time of the day was beer o'clock and I have never enjoyed a beer as much.

Cheers, DD

 

[Digger Danny]

Farms should be where the consumers live. Coastal areas plenty of rain, and good soils. No need to transport meat long distances.

Agreed but very expensive, also not enough area for large scale beef producing considering there are stations well in excess of 2 million acres, this is not just 2 or 3.

Cheers,DD

 

[nucopia]

A lot of the obsticles for the famer to produce and sell directly to the consumer are obsticles of government regulation.
There is also an unnecessary accreditation scheme in place that adds further costs through its exclusive practices and its monopoly over most of the meat processing and transport companies with in the industry.

I do not think the transport company's are making much. Cost of truck, trailer, fuel, wages, a depot, maintenance, tyres, Gov fees such as rego, Insurance, unhooking road trains to pull single trailers through non road train areas, lost off staff to the mines I think you know what I am saying.

Cheers, DD

Mate I bet the transport companies are not making much.
But I also know many are being forced to seek accreditation and pay fees to certain group to ensure their trucks and handling , for an example , meets the requirements of those groups.
My point was directed at this unnecessary accreditation scheme that has incerted its self into the supply chain and created a monopoly over processing and transport.
The forum rules prevent me from spelling out who and how but i think you can connect the dots.

 

[madworld]

Are you referring to halal certification ?

 

[nucopia]

Are you referring to halal certification ?

Bingo !

 

[aussiefarmer]

Farms should be where the consumers live. Coastal areas plenty of rain, and good soils. No need to transport meat long distances.

They used to be, most the best farm land now has houses or horses on them.

 

[madworld]

I love the fact that my weekly shop costs me more so my food can be certified to a religion i dont follow

 

[Ivo]

one of the stupid costs are the electronic ear tags which we are made put in them before they leave the farm roughly $2 a tag , even when they go direct to the abattoirs they must have them or we get a $45 fine per tag, and the first thing taken off the animal is the skin with the ears on it. the tags only have our property identification number in it nothing else.

Gone up again aussie seen them at the field days $2:50each on special they said lol

 

[Ivo]

traceability thats what the ear tags are for.....meat can be traced from butcher to paddock.

Thats why we use brands, can not be removed/adjusted(easy). I know what you are saying as some graziers have adopted into their herd management but it is another cost.

I don't know about where you are digger but my local sale yard refused to take my cows because they were branded saying"it didnt look good for the buyer" so that was 8 cows i had to pay twice for transport and the mongr#ls slugged me holding fees as well