Luke was it private land access you had in the Georgetown area ? Extremely hard around Clermont to find any one willing to let you on their land and was only a stroke of luck that I happened to help out the right bloke at the right time and he hence then returned me a favor . When told a few examples of the liberties taken by some it's fully understandable as to why it's so hard at times to gain access. Sad really as once trust is gained the country hospitality then extended is second to non. To me mate in the hat ....................... thanks again