Top ten metal detectors 2015

[ronniecruisin]

Hi. Wolfau. Mine was running 3.2. Because of back problems, I sold my GPX4000 to try this lighter machine trick. The Deus is without doubt my all time favorite machine to use. I can only afford one machine, otherwise I can assure you, I would still have it. But it is still VLF and generally speaking they will always struggle with noise,hot rocks etc. Even Steve says this in all his reviews re. VLF machines. I tried all settings and tested the Deus well in all modes. I always do this with all machines. When it comes down to it manufacturers are constantly tweaking VLFs to try to improve their gold finding ability, and its fair to say some have a certain amount of success with some of these tweaks. But as Steve H points out, we have very nearly come to the end of the tweaking possibilities of VLF technology. (the words...Clutching at straws come to mind here.) In the past year I've had a CTX 3030...A Deus....A Fors Gold...A MXT Pro... A Technetics T2 ES... and before all of that A Garret AT Gold. They are all slightly different in their approach and features and ease of use, But for finding Gold,? My old GPX 4000 Leaves every one of them in the dust. If you can only afford one machine and want to have a go at all goodies then yes, A VLF is probably the best way to go. Although a Whites SPP with conductivity switch can and does discriminate reasonably well, and it's PI.And it's cheap. But if it's Gold you want PI PI PI. My greatest regret is selling my 4000. Found a lot of gold with that. Hundreds of bits. How many have I found with all the above VLFs................................(admittedly I don't go out nearly as much now) But How Many????...............NOT EVEN 1. And this from a guy that never once came back without at least one nugget every time I went out with my GPX4000. having said all that I wish you heaps of luck with your Deus...I wish I still had mine....Regards.....Ronnie.

 

[Guest]

Ronnie what we might need is a vlf/pi
Hybrid and hopefully one with a distinctive
Zap zap over small nuggets using both
Technologies to produce a deep seeking
Discrimination capable gold detector or
A capable gold detector with iron audio.

Hopefully something becomes available
Soon though.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[ronniecruisin]

Wolfau. You've literally hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what we need. Didn't I read somewhere that Whites are toying with building a V3i capable of both technologies. I think the reason we don't have one to date is purely profit driven. If manufacturers gave us a true all in one, many of us would only buy one machine. Whites are very innovative and price competitive. I reckon if anyone's gonna help us out here i believe they may be the one. But hey! Imagine a DEUS with that capability. Now that would be a winner.! What about it XP? Show us how innovative you really can be? regards to all ....Ronnie.

 

[mbasko]

Whites have patents but have done for awhile. Be interesting to see if they ever get it off the ground & at what price.
http://www.detectorprospector.com/f...ction-balance-pulse-induction-metal-detector/
One interesting thing is most people when wishing for/wanting a VLF/PI hybrid tend to be talking of a machine with a switch flicking between technologies whereas when you look at patents etc. the manufacturers talk about incorporating induction balance (VLF) & pulse current inducing characteristicsinto a new form of detector technology. Much like the GPZ's ZVT technology which could be considered VLF/PI hybrid without the discrimination abilities.
Bring it on but I won't be holding my breath waiting & will just continue as normal. Patents mean very little until actual products are being tested for release. Hopefully soon & <$10k

 

[Ridge Runner]

Hi. All. I had to put my two cents worth in here Wolfau. If it's gold you're after I cannot understand the change from a gpx to the Deus. Don't get me wrong here, the Deus is truly remarkable. I had one. I basically did the same thing. I thought I could do it all with the CTX (tried that first) Then the Deus. Much to my extreme disappointment the Deus was very poor in the much touted gold program. Tried it on a 2 grammer in an open hole about 3 inches deep. Didn't get a peep out of it. At the end of the day it is still a VLF, and suffers from the same issues all VLFs have suffered from since the dawn of detecting. For gold? A PI is unbeatable in Australian conditions. The best VLF I tried that was the most sensitive to the same test was the Technetics T2 se. The Deus is however without doubt superb in trash. If your looking for gold though my suggestion is always detect in All Metal mode with your VLF. Bit noisy but still better than discrim mode for gold. Regards.. Ronnie.

It really depends how you used the Deus, what settings
You had and the software version you were running at
The time. I will test a 1 gram nugget though depth wise
As I am suprised you were not able to detect a 2 grammer
Then again it depends on the shape of the nugget.

Current one is v3.2 and there is talk of an
Update. I owned both machines and the gold fields are not
Close by hence i decided to sell the 5000 due to
The large investment money wise i had put towards
The purchase.

I did not sell 1 to purchase the other though.

Fully aware about our ground conditions since I
Have been prospecting off and on since the 90's.

Did you get to experiment with the ground notch
Feature on the Deus?

I think the deus around trashy areas in the gold
fields should do well though and I will test this.

A nice nugget found by a forum member.

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8015

Wolfy, That Deus is going to be a Monster around old mining towns and working the Heaps, I go with the MXTs because they work at the same speed as me, But The Deus and ALL XP Machines are One Of, If Not the Best there Is In Heavy Trash, The only reason I don't have one is a personal thing which could be at the expense of my finds, I think once you get the settings worked out you ain't going to be missing much.

 

[ronniecruisin]

Hi. All. Just as a side note to this discussion, when I had my Deus one thing I did find a bit strange. On all my testing with small gold the Deus gave no conductivity reading at all. There is a video on the net where two guys testing the Deus complained about the very same thing. I did talk to Aussie Detecting about it at the time but he could not shed any light on it either. It gave readings on everything else, but not Gold. Consequently I did ignore some targets not digging them with no reading until I discovered this strange anomaly. Don't know about other users but one of my favorite things about the Deus was the extremely positive tonal characteristics. For me this was the crowning positive that made the Deus such a pleasure to use, and the lightness of course. If it had the better sensitivity to gold the T2 has, I'd get another one. Regards Ronnie.

 

[treasureman]

Is this taken on American buying quantity?

Must be. Theres no way a fisher f2 is better than the f75 ltd in 2015. MjMust be based on buying quantity. The f75 ltd iiis deeper and better than a lot of those machines, etrac at pro for example

 

[Ridge Runner]

Due to Design Issue's the F75 is now on it's 6th or 7th Circuit Board by 2011, They had a lot of issue's with falsing and EMI etc, Still they are good when you get them running right.