smoking has been outlawed in nsw forests

[Horse]

Maybe ban glass containers from NP and SF too.
Vehicles with hot exhausts
LPG lighting and cooking equipment.
Safety matches out of survival kits.

Lots of things that can start fires if idiots use them.
Education, not prohibition is the key.

It can never be enforced effectively.

 

[KarlS]

Bahh, education. Everyone is educated nowdays and there is more idiots then ever before. Common sense that's what is needed. But on again top scientists will tell you that common sense is no good. Too many blody academics around.
We don't need the education, we don't need the thought control! Hey teacher, leave us kids alone!
Karl

 

[Metamorphic]

Lightning and 13yo's with matches are also major causes of bushfire!

Those that whinge because they have to walk past a smoker are likely the ones who ride bikes and go jogging in the CBD! Go figure?

It can never be enforced effectively.

I think those highly intelligent by-laws donkey's are currently holding discussions on supplying the local wildlife with smart phones for 000 calls and use as video evidence.
Out of taxpayer funds of course.

People who cant mind their own business and constantly whine, moan and sook about anything they deem 'unacceptable' to them are a nuisance......lets ban them!

 

[LC76]

Used to carry one of these when i smoked in the bush with Archery.
No butts on the ground no risk of fire.

 

[Imadogman]

On the news just heard that smoking (even in your car) has been banned in NSW forests ...... I think only while high fire danger is in place....

This information is not correct. The ban applies to National Parks. It is not about "NSW Forests". Your post is good awareness raising about fire danger in the bush but a quick google would have located this,

http://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/safety/no-smoking-nsw-national-parks

Not much point getting fired up over a forest ban when there isn't one!

The difference is relevant because we are allowed to fossick in State Forests with a permit but not in National Parks.

 

[Matturbo]

I'm on the road all day with a mobile business and probably see 30-50 buts flicked out the window per week. I Own a property bordering state forest so im all for it, I know it's only a small percentage that don't do the right thing, but they stuff it for everyone.

 

[KarlS]

Then ARC news were incorrect, not Kawan. I heard it too, ban on smoking in National Parks and State forests.
Karl

 

[silver]

Maybe they are getting ready to allow non smokers to prospect in national parks,....subject to a doctors cert of coarse(coff coff).

 

[shivan]

Not much point getting fired up over a forest ban when there isn't one!
The difference is relevant because we are allowed to fossick in State Forests with a permit but not in National Parks.

Its not always about fossicking though. Yalwal mines are 15 mins from me and i enjoy walking the tracks, exploring the old mines and looking at the geology of the area, but is all national park. I have been walking those tracks for years and have been happily smoking as i do.
The bans are just stupid as the people who the bans are aimed at are the ones just as likely to ignore them, and the people who do try and do the right thing will be affected.

 

[goldtruck59]

Like I said, while smoking is legal, that's just how it is. Suck it up and lets just hope none of those butts starts a fire from an irresponsible smoker. 8)

 

[silver]

Could be just broken glass and the sun ?

 

[Hiluxlou]

True or not it is just stupidity , and it should reinforce the fact that we are governed by absolute imbeciles that have completely lost touch with what they were elected for. Can't for the life of me imagine why some fat cat in Canberra would be even considering this as an issue when we have massive youth unemployment, health services issues and the list goes on . The biggest problem is all politicians are as bad as each other , we need politicians to inspire us not treat us like idiots.
Just my 2 bobs worth....
Luke

 

[silver]

Clive and Pauline,...Two of the greatest names I could come up with in a flash.

Don't choke,...I'm fair dinkum.

 

[Heatho]

Anymore hot air and bullcrap from politicians and other law/rule makers and the whole country will spontaneously self combust.

Poor smoker is again treated like a criminal and an ***** while minding their own business in their own car, most smokers are sensible and there are big fines for those who are not.

Many times I've been enjoying a ciggi having a seive or pan and someone rocks up with a stinky pump and highbanker and fills the area with fumes, still I don't say anything, it's legal...... Fun to watch also.

Disposable nappies ( while we are on the topic of rubbish), every national park and a lot fossicking spots seem to have piles of them springing up everywhere. Dunno why people can't just use old style ones and wash them like in the good ol days. Ban these for sure.

Diesel, stuff will kill you if you breathe enough of the fine particulates diesel engines spew out. Probably worse than smoking but no one says anything. Ban it.

Sitting around a campfire huffing huge volumes of smoke with the kids while wanting to threaten violence if you go near a kid with a lit ciggi. Ban campfires, too unhealthy.

There's an endless amount of annoying human habits and behavior that should be banned but the poor smoker deserves a break, at nearly $30 a pack I reckon I have the right to smoke anywhere in my own private home or vehicle whenever choose. Anyone who thinks otherwise thinks way too much........ about other peoples stuff........ and should worry more about their own........er......stuff.

Most of the big fires last year were started by ***** kids looking for a cheap thrill, lightning strikes, the miltary playing with explosives and powerlines coming down.

 

[Paydirt]

Amen

 

[Guest]

Anymore hot air and bullcrap from politicians and other law/rule makers and the whole country will spontaneously self combust.

Poor smoker is again treated like a criminal and an ***** while minding their own business in their own car, most smokers are sensible and there are big fines for those who are not.

Many times I've been enjoying a ciggi having a seive or pan and someone rocks up with a stinky pump and highbanker and fills the area with fumes, still I don't say anything, it's legal...... Fun to watch also.

Disposable nappies ( while we are on the topic of rubbish), every national park and a lot fossicking spots seem to have piles of them springing up everywhere. Dunno why people can't just use old style ones and wash them like in the good ol days. Ban these for sure.

Diesel, stuff will kill you if you breathe enough of the fine particulates diesel engines spew out. Probably worse than smoking but no one says anything. Ban it.

Sitting around a campfire huffing huge volumes of smoke with the kids while wanting to threaten violence if you go near a kid with a lit ciggi. Ban campfires, too unhealthy.

There's an endless amount of annoying human habits and behavior that should be banned but the poor smoker deserves a break, at nearly $30 a pack I reckon I have the right to smoke anywhere in my own private home or vehicle whenever choose. Anyone who thinks otherwise thinks way too much........ about other peoples stuff........ and should worry more about their own........er......stuff.

Most of the big fires last year were started by ***** kids looking for a cheap thrill, lightning strikes, the miltary playing with explosives and powerlines coming down.

Here here,

Not to forget that stupid policeman that set fire to the bush in WA angle grinding on a total fire ban in 2011.

The gov make me sick. Another revenue raiser. They will never ban smokes because of the tax they get.
But they make stupid ridiculous rules like this.

 

[karu]

What sort of moronic goverment/public servent enacts a law that is impossible to enforce. They are only inceasing the contempt in which they are already held.

Monty who? :8

 

[Tathradj]

Yeah,
So all the rabid greenies can go home and smoke a joint thinking of the good job they have done.
National Parks NSW,
No Camping. (Unless you pay and camp in area that are under serviced and too small. ("We do not have the funds to properly maintain them")
No Fossicking. Full stop.
No vehicular access. ("Unless we can find the funds to pay for a track.")
No wandering of a trail. (We do not you crushing the life out of the red bummed ants just over there,We cannot find the funds to conduct some research)
No access to 95% of the park. (We do not have the funds to access an environmental impact statement to allow that)
No Smoking. Heck, (We assessed the situation, Studied it come to a conclusion that this should be banned( We found a couple of million dollars to do that)
We can pay our selves a handsome ransom in wages (Yes, we have the funds to do that. Very Well)
We are insured through one of the biggest insurers in the world. (That is why we get paid motsa during a bush fire. Volunteers get paid nothing. That is why we have clipboards)
.
All National Parks in NSW are Aboriginal Title. ( I thought that ALL of Australia was title. Hang on, We found the funds back in 1996 to do that.)
Deepest respect to the custodians of the land, They get nothing out of it.
.
Have a look at "Kosciusko National Parks PTY LTD"
The end title will raise a few eyebrows when you look into it. One of the biggest fund raisers in Australia.

 

[Horse]

Bahh, education. Everyone is educated nowdays and there is more idiots then ever before. Common sense that's what is needed. But on again top scientists will tell you that common sense is no good. Too many blody academics around.
We don't need the education, we don't need the thought control! Hey teacher, leave us kids alone!
Karl

Sense that is common.....comes about by education.
It is either educate folks or a blanket ban.

The main problem is those that just do not give a rats ***. Butt tossers, unfilled hole leavers.
Takes a few to screw the many I guess.

 

[Goldtarget]

Alot of angst here, and rightly so. I can't say it any better than has already been said. The common aussie is not so common when it comes to being represented. I hear alot of we did a great job of passing alot of new legislation, but rarely hear anything about positive and meaningful contributions. Not to mention that journo that dared to suggest we take down our war hero statues because it was a tribute to violence. It's just plain ridiculous what some fringe dwellers will suggest and implement at times.