Plant based "meat." Interesting.

[sand surfer]

I read some where a while ago goldierocks , that if australia went vegan there would not be enough arable ground to grow enough food to feed the population today let alone in the future, i can not remember the figures, it surprised me the amount of arable ground needed .

And if they want to eat like that go and graze with them, the cows and sheep will share :lol:

Haven't seen that but it sounds possible - however we do export lots of wheat and some vegies and fruit - and opium (yep, currently producing around half the worlds raw opiate supply for pharmaceuticals).

IT was a fair while ago ,the grain crops were not a problem they were more on the vegies side of things ,stating the rate of arable land loss to housing and the extra acres needed to grow the vegies to replace the tons of meat taken of the table ,i will see if i can find it, if i do i will either post it or PM you :Y:

 

[Ridge Runner]

I think many who replied didn't bother to watch the video.

The video is interesting enough but where it falls short is that they don't list all the Chemicals that were used and sprayed on those crops in order to grow the ingredients that make up that fake burger such as bug repellents and fertilizers etc and the list goes on,

There is not enough info about the production methods from behind the scenes, I am still on the side of the farmers.

Everything is a chemical.

Yeah I see that now,

The day they were giving out brains I went fishing layful:

 

[user 4386]

I think many who replied didn't bother to watch the video.

The video is interesting enough but where it falls short is that they don't list all the Chemicals that were used and sprayed on those crops in order to grow the ingredients that make up that fake burger such as bug repellents and fertilizers etc and the list goes on,

There is not enough info about the production methods from behind the scenes, I am still on the side of the farmers.

Everything is a chemical.

Good comment and often not appreciated. But synthetic chemical is presumably meant. Humans have evolved to tolerate many natural chemicals, but many of those that we synthesize outside nature can be toxic or carcinogenic to varying degrees.

 

[user 4386]

I read some where a while ago goldierocks , that if australia went vegan there would not be enough arable ground to grow enough food to feed the population today let alone in the future, i can not remember the figures, it surprised me the amount of arable ground needed .

And if they want to eat like that go and graze with them, the cows and sheep will share :lol:

Haven't seen that but it sounds possible - however we do export lots of wheat and some vegies and fruit - and opium (yep, currently producing around half the worlds raw opiate supply for pharmaceuticals).

IT was a fair while ago ,the grain crops were not a problem they were more on the vegies side of things ,stating the rate of arable land loss to housing and the extra acres needed to grow the vegies to replace the tons of meat taken of the table ,i will see if i can find it, if i do i will either post it or PM you :Y:

I read something similar, but it was in a more general way - that we were destroying our market gardens for vegies as they were replaced by suburbs, not that we did not still have enough arable land to grow vegies. More related to costs, convenience and transportation. I thought it very true - the Chinese market gardens extended to the coast east and southeast of Melbourne (none now). I think the river flat gardens around Bacchus Marsh have only survived because the land is highly flood-prone (although commercial lawn turf has taken over from a lot of vegies and fruit trees). However if one added the factor of us all going vegan, what you recall may well be so.

 

[sand surfer]

Yep read that one too,it was a ag scientist having a chop at the vegan reports that most of the grazing and fodder producing land is suitable for vegie growing,the scientist
pointed out their inflated figures ,the vegans were saying that most of the grazing and all fodder growing land is arable enough to grow vegies on that land ,which is true but for every 10 acres of fodder grown you use about 1 meg of water where 10 acres of vegeis needs about 10 megs of water, so what the ag man was reporting was for every 10 acres of fodder ground you can only grow 1 acre of vegies ,unless they can find a lot of water, the vegan reports were putting everything under one brolly, where the scientist broke it all down section by section, and i give him his dues because where the vegans were right he stated that fact and where they were wrong he stated those facts to.

Bloody annoying i can not find it , he was not pushing one agenda where it was wrong he called it where it was right he called it

 

[Ridge Runner]

Ok that's It, I'm giving up Meat and I am going on a Vegan Diet,

From now on I am going to Eat One Vegan a Day layful: layful: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: