shakergt said:
Football ,meat pies,kangaroos and horse and cart :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Holden dead how sad
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Its a media beat up. Holden has been nothing but a badge for decades now. All they did hear was assemble cars by other manufacturers. the Commodore was just a German Opel.
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Remember when Holden introduced the "New" Commodore. Safer cars for the future....lol.
I don't think there would have been any sales at all if people had access the the VB Commodore crash test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjtSilW8yM
I don't think there would have been any sales at all if people had access the the VB Commodore crash test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjtSilW8yM
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aussiefarmer said:
It was a couple billion over 12 years.
One thing that would have helped Holden in Australia was to make all Federal MPs and Government officials use Holden sedans.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-24/new-luxury-vehicles-for-mps/10665086
All the incrimination and finger pointing will begin again but the simple fact is Holden and Ford lost their way and did not produce cars people wanted and we turned to overseas imports, the population voted with their $s.
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SWright said:
The VB Commodore "Body" was based on the 1978 Opel Rekord / Vauxhall but had the chassis mounts and the suspension and the Diffs Gear Box and motors except the 2.0L were all Australian, Nearly all European and Japanese cars have to have chassis upgrades to suit Australian conditions, The 1982/86 Nissan Bluebird has the same body as the Australian model but it is front wheel drive and not rear wheel drive like the Aussie version, Looks almost the same but the EU version rusted faster than any car I have seen,
Nower days most European cars have Galvanised Bodies and Panels to deal with the Salt that they spread on the roads in winter, My new Ford is Galvanised and a lot of cars now have a 10 year warranty on the body work. :Y:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=o...hUKEwjsi-O0itrnAhUUO8AKHXEhAHUQ9QEwBnoECAkQKQ
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151981482@N04/27276603269
Unions warned that this was coming for years with Manufacturing in Australia... But No one listened... :lol:
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LoneWolf said:
We didn't have a chance after Whitlam signed us up to the UN Lima agreement.
"In 1975, the Whitlam government signed the United Nations Lima Declaration, through which the Australian government sold out Australian industries and workers by specifically agreeing to transfer manufacturing to Third World countries, supposedly to help them develop.Oct 15, 2018"
https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentar...7fb77b1-0930-425d-ad2a-6fd86946e453/&sid=0042
And no, it's not tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
Spot on gold trapper, and the lima agreement evolved into agenda 21.
The UN decides via agreements of sorts , on how many migrants developed Countries will take.
Which is one of the reasons Sydney and Melbourne have boomed from cities of 2 million in the late 60,s to cities of over 5 million now. They did not forecast such growth when they built warragamba dam, and still haven't enlarged it even though the cities are growing so quickly.
Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia sits on the UN human rights council.....yes, the country that decapetates blasphemers publicly, is one of the most Important players onhow many rights
I personally would love to see Australia step away a little from the UN.
It really is a useless organisation
The UN decides via agreements of sorts , on how many migrants developed Countries will take.
Which is one of the reasons Sydney and Melbourne have boomed from cities of 2 million in the late 60,s to cities of over 5 million now. They did not forecast such growth when they built warragamba dam, and still haven't enlarged it even though the cities are growing so quickly.
Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia sits on the UN human rights council.....yes, the country that decapetates blasphemers publicly, is one of the most Important players onhow many rights
I personally would love to see Australia step away a little from the UN.
It really is a useless organisation
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davent said:
Yep same, does no good for anyone. It is corrupt as hell also.
goldtrapper said:
The thing with the VB Commodore was, if you cut the springs and lowered it 2.5 inches you could go through roundabouts at 90+ kph and have two wheels completely off the ground. So really the handling alone made them alot safer than the boats other manufacturers had on the market at the time.
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I personally didnt mind it being propped up by Govt money, there was plenty of Mums and Dads that got thrown a lifeline for a while to transition out of dead manufacturing.
You wont have to look too far back in History to see where the tide turned on National companies involved in manufacturing, and all these decades later I can sort of see why changes were made and the bigger picture.
Some of those V8 Supercar stouches were amazing though, so many memories of the agony, the failures, the thrill, the wins and the rivalries.
Its nice hearing everyones thoughts though, definitely an end of an area.
You wont have to look too far back in History to see where the tide turned on National companies involved in manufacturing, and all these decades later I can sort of see why changes were made and the bigger picture.
Some of those V8 Supercar stouches were amazing though, so many memories of the agony, the failures, the thrill, the wins and the rivalries.
Its nice hearing everyones thoughts though, definitely an end of an area.
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davent said:
The U.N? Aren't they the people who wear blue helmets while they watch genocides? Observers who can't engage- What a freaking joke
Clinton sold out America,when he gave it most favoured nation status.
Watch the man who forecast all this downfall of the west,with free trade,in the early 90st
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s
I can't understand why people can't see what is happening to this country,we are heading to a third world dump.
If they stopped building houses here in Ballarat,I would hate to see the results for the city.
Watch the man who forecast all this downfall of the west,with free trade,in the early 90st
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s
I can't understand why people can't see what is happening to this country,we are heading to a third world dump.
If they stopped building houses here in Ballarat,I would hate to see the results for the city.
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Well I for one think that most car companies will fall to the way side one after the other until we only have solar powered high speed rail travel for land, wind and solar power for sea....
And this for the sky
[video=480,360]https://youtu.be/jvYaEAYaAJQ[/video]
no room left for the petrol heads except for museums and fun days (even then they'll be delivered by drone cause eventually there'll be no need for roads)
Just one big earth forest with a few million earthling inhabitants using very high tech gadgetry.
oop: :fire: Hey !
And this for the sky
[video=480,360]https://youtu.be/jvYaEAYaAJQ[/video]
no room left for the petrol heads except for museums and fun days (even then they'll be delivered by drone cause eventually there'll be no need for roads)
Just one big earth forest with a few million earthling inhabitants using very high tech gadgetry.
oop: :fire: Hey !Great clip.
I date this coming a lot more recently, when when Turnbull signed with China. Of course he took the credit , but it was K Rudd showing off, speaking Chinese and negotiating the deal before him. We have been sold for short term gain. We have very hard times ahead.
Fitter machinists are hard to find now. The biggest engineering buis ess in Australia shut their doors a couple of years ago. They started making victa lawnmower engines, then washing machine engines, then they did sunbeam appliances and supplied components to GMH and Ford. They train Ed and employed countless tradesmen for years.
They closed up when cheap imports flooded in.
Our biggest industries now?
Coal.
Tourism
Education .
The climate change alarmists want to shut down coal.
Tourism and education are in trouble as we speak....corona virus....
I date this coming a lot more recently, when when Turnbull signed with China. Of course he took the credit , but it was K Rudd showing off, speaking Chinese and negotiating the deal before him. We have been sold for short term gain. We have very hard times ahead.
Fitter machinists are hard to find now. The biggest engineering buis ess in Australia shut their doors a couple of years ago. They started making victa lawnmower engines, then washing machine engines, then they did sunbeam appliances and supplied components to GMH and Ford. They train Ed and employed countless tradesmen for years.
They closed up when cheap imports flooded in.
Our biggest industries now?
Coal.
Tourism
Education .
The climate change alarmists want to shut down coal.
Tourism and education are in trouble as we speak....corona virus....
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silver said:Well I for one think that most car companies will fall to the way side one after the other until we only have solar powered high speed rail travel for land, wind and solar power for sea....
And this for the sky
[video=480,360]https://youtu.be/jvYaEAYaAJQ[/video]
no room left for the petrol heads except for museums and fun days (even then they'll be delivered by drone cause eventually there'll be no need for roads)
Just one big earth forest with a few million earthling inhabitants using very high tech gadgetry.
"Here's George Jetson"........
Coming to Melbourne in 2023... Human carrying Drones... Think I will pass for a few years yet... I don't trust them...
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