Ho ho ho, wetty Christmas!
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I think you are in for a big Cyclone Season this year davent :| ...... I spent 3yrs in NT back in 1990 and 2yrs at Tindal..... Loved Darwin hated Tindal....keen to get back up that way this year for a look-see again.... 
Welcome to Global Warming....
LoneWolf....
Welcome to Global Warming....
LoneWolf....
Dave, I worked up there as a cement sprayer following Cyclone Tracey in the Grollo camps. I was young and very fit then, so I could take the build-up and the wet. I can't imagine what it's like detecting up your way these days.
All BS we get about climate change,listen to Dr Ron Paul destroy climate change,he lays out what is all about,world Government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOC_9Wgv5N8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOC_9Wgv5N8
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PMSL..... Mate get your head out of the sand and have a look at the REAL world......
LoneWolf....
I'm in 2 minds about climate change, I'm sure its changing, no doubt, but I'm not sure it hasn't always changed. Dinosaurs died because of climate change, its always changed.
Still wet, its really only an average wet so far. Been here for 17 years now, every year is different, but always 2 seasons, although last year was 1 and a 1/2.
Still wet, its really only an average wet so far. Been here for 17 years now, every year is different, but always 2 seasons, although last year was 1 and a 1/2.
If 'Climate Change' is BS why are sea levels rising causing people to relocate to a higher ground (Pacific Islands).. We have Ice Shelfs melting at an alarming rate ... Polar Bears running around in towns, caused by no ice shelfs and lack of food(seals hang out on ice shelfs)...
Here in Aust we have Crocs on Fraser Island, weren't there 20 yrs ago.... Irukandji Jellyfish from the tropics now affecting Fraser as well.... The list is so long... You only have to look at the Animals around the World and see whats happening there....
In the last 2 months SA and Vic have been hit with 2 Low depressions with a pressure reading of a Cat 1-2 Cyclone, first time in my life I have ever seen this event..
If they had been in the tropics they would have been Cyclones and named, but because they were bellow the cut-off point for Cyclones(Coffs Harbour I think) they are called low depressions. Same strength as one tho....
Dinosaurs died out from Asteroid Impact... witch caused a massive shift in Climate(Ice Age)....http://www.history.com/topics/why-did-the-dinosaurs-die-out
Of course there are many theories but This one makes sense.....To Me anyhow
LoneWolf....
Here in Aust we have Crocs on Fraser Island, weren't there 20 yrs ago.... Irukandji Jellyfish from the tropics now affecting Fraser as well.... The list is so long... You only have to look at the Animals around the World and see whats happening there....
In the last 2 months SA and Vic have been hit with 2 Low depressions with a pressure reading of a Cat 1-2 Cyclone, first time in my life I have ever seen this event..
If they had been in the tropics they would have been Cyclones and named, but because they were bellow the cut-off point for Cyclones(Coffs Harbour I think) they are called low depressions. Same strength as one tho....
Dinosaurs died out from Asteroid Impact... witch caused a massive shift in Climate(Ice Age)....http://www.history.com/topics/why-did-the-dinosaurs-die-out
Of course there are many theories but This one makes sense.....To Me anyhow
LoneWolf....
Where I live, this year we have had 31 inches of rain, our average is 24 inches But back in 1930 we also had 30 iches of rain.
The weather I believe goes in cycles. There are place in Australia that to look at you would never believe were once under water but were. Man builds in some pretty stupid places like next to rivers on for shores in ancient river beds on fault lines and when some unusual weather event happens they go oh it's climate change and it's all caused by man....some of it might be but there always will be climate change always has been from year dot.
I'm more concerned about the amount of pollution on the planet and the Fucashima nuclear nuclear plant.
The polution we can do something about.
My rant, cheers
The weather I believe goes in cycles. There are place in Australia that to look at you would never believe were once under water but were. Man builds in some pretty stupid places like next to rivers on for shores in ancient river beds on fault lines and when some unusual weather event happens they go oh it's climate change and it's all caused by man....some of it might be but there always will be climate change always has been from year dot.
I'm more concerned about the amount of pollution on the planet and the Fucashima nuclear nuclear plant.
The polution we can do something about.
My rant, cheers
Got a 100ml in Brissie last night, very welcome and already the grass is growing and greening up.
Mackka
Mackka
I am in the group that believes that there is climate change happening, but that it has been happening for millions of years without the influence on man and will continue to happen. Human influence is minuscule in comparison to the forces of nature, but yes, stupid people will continue to build in silly places then blame man made climate change for problems that happen.
Many environmentalists are just trying to justify there job or position of choice, and this applies even more so for the related political parties. Most environmental "science" is based on manipulated data that is designed to present the message that they want to sell. If we continue to allow this to control our existence, we will bring the world into economic ruin.
Having said that I do whatever I can to try and not rubbish our environment, fill my detector holes, carry back all my non-gold, metal finds when detecting, have solar hot water, solar power panels on most of the house roof, have water tanks, etc, and have a campervan that complies with the CMCA SCV/LNT objectives (Self Contained Vehicle and Leave No Trace).
So basically I am with TheDigger, and do worry about the influence that the Greenie lot have on my existence.
Rob P.
Many environmentalists are just trying to justify there job or position of choice, and this applies even more so for the related political parties. Most environmental "science" is based on manipulated data that is designed to present the message that they want to sell. If we continue to allow this to control our existence, we will bring the world into economic ruin.
Having said that I do whatever I can to try and not rubbish our environment, fill my detector holes, carry back all my non-gold, metal finds when detecting, have solar hot water, solar power panels on most of the house roof, have water tanks, etc, and have a campervan that complies with the CMCA SCV/LNT objectives (Self Contained Vehicle and Leave No Trace).
So basically I am with TheDigger, and do worry about the influence that the Greenie lot have on my existence.
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I believe the climate changes but I don't believe all the theories that we are causing it. It's changed numerous times over millions of years without human interaction. We certainly do contribute but it's minor in comparison to other effects.LoneWolf said:If 'Climate Change' is BS why are sea levels rising causing people to relocate to a higher ground (Pacific Islands).. We have Ice Shelfs melting at an alarming rate ... Polar Bears running around in towns, caused by no ice shelfs and lack of food(seals hang out on ice shelfs)...
Here in Aust we have Crocs on Fraser Island, weren't there 20 yrs ago.... Irukandji Jellyfish from the tropics now affecting Fraser as well.... The list is so long... You only have to look at the Animals around the World and see whats happening there....
In the last 2 months SA and Vic have been hit with 2 Low depressions with a pressure reading of a Cat 1-2 Cyclone, first time in my life I have ever seen this event..
If they had been in the tropics they would have been Cyclones and named, but because they were bellow the cut-off point for Cyclones(Coffs Harbour I think) they are called low depressions. Same strength as one tho....
Dinosaurs died out from Asteroid Impact... witch caused a massive shift in Climate(Ice Age)....http://www.history.com/topics/why-did-the-dinosaurs-die-out
Of course there are many theories but This one makes sense.....To Me anyhow
LoneWolf....
The first time I went to Fraser Island was 26 years ago. We were warned then that there was occasional crocodile sightings but little was known or proven. Last time I went was 5 years ago this month. The same areas we were warned about were now signposted & the sightings have been further investigated/confirmed. The Ranger I spoke to said it's now believed they were there all along. They haven't just turned up now. There's a belief that in more populated times before croc culling they may have even shown up as far south as Brisbane?
PAST SIGHTINGS
1923: The Chronicle reported sightings of a croc in Tinana Creek after a flood.
1937: Tiaro was on high alert as a search for a crocodile spotted in the Mary River got under way.
1947: A crocodile was found dead near the Mary River by Mr J Yates, a professional fisherman. The crocodile was said to be 3.2m long and was shot by Mr M. Goldenstein from the bridge of a boat.
1951: The body of a croc was found at Woody Island in Hervey Bay, and another was spotted near Saltwater Ck.
1964: James Greensill hunted and shot a 3.2m crocodile on the banks of the Mary River at Owanyilla before parading it around the pubs in Maryborough.
Source: Fraser Coast Cronicle April 2016
South Australia & Victoria were affected/hit by Tropical Cyclone Cristine in 2013-2014. This was the deepest a cyclone had been into SA since 1907 (must've been climate change in 1907 too
). It's rare & according to Weatherzone meteorologist Brett Dutscke there has only been four or so times in the last hundred years that a cyclone has held together as a low pressure system and crossed all the way into SA. Source: http://indaily.com.au/news/2014/01/02/cyclones-sa-visit-deepest-since-1907/Cyclones are categorised by using the Australian tropical cyclone intensity scale not location. It's based on mean wind speed (km/h), typical strongest wind gust (km/h) & central pressure (hPa). If any of those go below the intensity ratings they become a tropical low, tropical storm, low depession etc.
"A tropical cyclone is defined as a non-frontal low pressure system of synoptic scale developing over warm waters having organised convection and a maximum mean wind speed of 34 knots or greater extending more than half-way around near the centre and persisting for at least six hours." Source: http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/faq/
Source: http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/hazards/cyclone/basics/where
Well Lonewolf, I have not got my head in the sand.
This is what it is all about.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/
This is the words of Mark Twain
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Where I live in Victoria, the berries and the cherries were near of 10 days late from previous years,where I live,the nights have been much colder.
The leaves on some trees did not come into full leaf till November,so to my way of thinking the climate is cooling.
Here is some reading that will bring up to speed on global cooling.
Remember climate change is a "Big fat gravy train for the likes of Al Gore"
Lonewolf could you name a island or two that has gone under water?
This is what it is all about.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/
This is the words of Mark Twain
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Where I live in Victoria, the berries and the cherries were near of 10 days late from previous years,where I live,the nights have been much colder.
The leaves on some trees did not come into full leaf till November,so to my way of thinking the climate is cooling.
Here is some reading that will bring up to speed on global cooling.
Remember climate change is a "Big fat gravy train for the likes of Al Gore"
Lonewolf could you name a island or two that has gone under water?
Sure thedigger....
Kiribati, made up of 32 Atolls and one raised Island Located about half way between Hawaii and Australia.... The President of Kiribati is in talks with the Fiji Government to buy up to 5,000 acres to house 102,697 people that live at Kiribati.... Most of the residents have already located to the main Island of Tarawam after the rest of their land Disappeared under water.. And that was in 2012 .. Do you want me to name any more, cause there is about 10 that I know of and im sure there would be more I found this link that may be of interest....http://www.businessinsider.com.au/islands-threatened-by-climate-change-2012-10#kiribati-1
LoneWolf...
Kiribati, made up of 32 Atolls and one raised Island Located about half way between Hawaii and Australia.... The President of Kiribati is in talks with the Fiji Government to buy up to 5,000 acres to house 102,697 people that live at Kiribati.... Most of the residents have already located to the main Island of Tarawam after the rest of their land Disappeared under water.. And that was in 2012 .. Do you want me to name any more, cause there is about 10 that I know of and im sure there would be more
I found this link that may be of interest....http://www.businessinsider.com.au/islands-threatened-by-climate-change-2012-10#kiribati-1LoneWolf...
Have a good look at that website...interesting reading
LoneWolf....
mbasko, They used to hunt Crocs in the Logan and Albert Rivers in 1910 ish... Located between Brisbane and Gold Coast..... I can remember a school excursion to Beenleigh Museum around 1977 and seeing these pics of Crocs on the walls.... Man that was a long time ago :lol:
LoneWolf.....
LoneWolf.....
If you can dig around enough you can find some interesting facts that are not widely published, mostly for self centred interests
Facts
1/ the earth has had ice ages and heat waves for millions of years
2/ The last major ice age was only about 10,000 years ago, and the last mini ice age was in the 16th century
3/ These natural fenomenon is caused by a very slight tilting (1 or 2 degrees)or wobble of the earth's axis.
Here is an interesting read, but just take note that all this modelling is based on "assumptions" , now any body can make assumptions about anything, eg., the last US election, you enter the figures (assumptions ) for the answer that YOU WANT to get
https://books.google.com.au/books?i...=y#v=onepage&q="tilting earth's axis"&f=false
So is there global warming........ yes.
Is it caused by man.........NO.
Is it contributed to by mankind.........probably
So, on the mankind side of things is there anything that we can do ?.......Well yes, we can ban ALL forms of motor transport, shut down gas and eletricity supplies, go back to sailing ships, horse and buggy days ( but watch out for the methane) outlaw open fires of any sort.
The repercussions
You need new glasses..... sorry not made any more, no electricity
You need an operation....sorry no anaesthetics , no lights, no heating, no nothing
Do I believe there is global warming..............yes
Is mankind responsible for it..........................partly
Is global warming a cyclical event..................YES
Can mankind alter global warming..................Not in the foreseeable future
As you may have guessed I am NOT a fan of Al Gore nor Mr Flannery and all their half truths but I do believe there is global warming and the politicians are being led by the snout by these quasi experts
Facts
1/ the earth has had ice ages and heat waves for millions of years
2/ The last major ice age was only about 10,000 years ago, and the last mini ice age was in the 16th century
3/ These natural fenomenon is caused by a very slight tilting (1 or 2 degrees)or wobble of the earth's axis.
Here is an interesting read, but just take note that all this modelling is based on "assumptions" , now any body can make assumptions about anything, eg., the last US election, you enter the figures (assumptions ) for the answer that YOU WANT to get
https://books.google.com.au/books?i...=y#v=onepage&q="tilting earth's axis"&f=false
So is there global warming........ yes.
Is it caused by man.........NO.
Is it contributed to by mankind.........probably
So, on the mankind side of things is there anything that we can do ?.......Well yes, we can ban ALL forms of motor transport, shut down gas and eletricity supplies, go back to sailing ships, horse and buggy days ( but watch out for the methane) outlaw open fires of any sort.
The repercussions
You need new glasses..... sorry not made any more, no electricity
You need an operation....sorry no anaesthetics , no lights, no heating, no nothing
Do I believe there is global warming..............yes
Is mankind responsible for it..........................partly
Is global warming a cyclical event..................YES
Can mankind alter global warming..................Not in the foreseeable future
As you may have guessed I am NOT a fan of Al Gore nor Mr Flannery and all their half truths but I do believe there is global warming and the politicians are being led by the snout by these quasi experts
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Not ecactly what I was looking for(link below), but around the 1990 give or take a half a decade they did coral bores in the corals that were present out from the mouths of QLD rivers, these bores showed by way of coral growth that in wet years with high outflows of fresh water from the river system that the coral only showed a small growth for those type years, and a large growth for the dry years that had minimal fresh water outflow from the river systems. When they colated the data for the past two thousand years they found fifty year turn around cycles that repeated themselves with variations, they found fifty years of dry with a few wet years thrown in followed by fifty years of wet with a few dry years thrown in ,... by my calculations based on the word of mouth stories by the elderly and my own observations of the weather since my early introductions to it from a youthful age when my father pointed out how the weather was working all around us by season, I recon we are around ten to fifteen years away from rentering a wet cycle (they will of course cry global warming when it happens). These cycles of one hundred years happened over and over again for the past two thousand years as shown by the QLD river mouth coral bores. If I or anyone can find access to that particular information, post it up here., it was reported in the media at the time, but never mentioned since (I wonder why ? )
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120705181241.htm
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120705181241.htm
This is the reason they want to move to Fiji "over population"
Get some easy money by way the so called climate change scam.
Kiribati is not under water,their population is still there,and it will be there,in the future,if they keep their population growing they all will end up in the sea.
Have a look back in time at all the gold plated doomsday mob,at their predictions,for the best part of 25 years name me one climate prediction that has come true.
Here is just a few from a big bag of duds.
They told us that by 2010 50million eco refugees
http://www.spiegel.de/international...by-forecast-on-climate-refugees-a-757713.html
As I said all BS
Remember our old mate Al Gore and the polar bear story.
http://www.npr.org/2013/02/02/170779528/the-inconvenient-truth-about-polar-bears
As I said all BS
Then was the other story children will never see snow
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11...n-blunders-has-disappeared-from-the-internet/
As I said all BS
Then there is that great Austrakian Guru Tim Flannery, the dams are never again fill.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...k=338cb067b54b8050a37a9683953ac599-1483446937
Again BS
At this stage I am knocked up with their prediction.
Get some easy money by way the so called climate change scam.
Kiribati is not under water,their population is still there,and it will be there,in the future,if they keep their population growing they all will end up in the sea.
Have a look back in time at all the gold plated doomsday mob,at their predictions,for the best part of 25 years name me one climate prediction that has come true.
Here is just a few from a big bag of duds.
They told us that by 2010 50million eco refugees
http://www.spiegel.de/international...by-forecast-on-climate-refugees-a-757713.html
As I said all BS
Remember our old mate Al Gore and the polar bear story.
http://www.npr.org/2013/02/02/170779528/the-inconvenient-truth-about-polar-bears
As I said all BS
Then was the other story children will never see snow
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11...n-blunders-has-disappeared-from-the-internet/
As I said all BS
Then there is that great Austrakian Guru Tim Flannery, the dams are never again fill.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...k=338cb067b54b8050a37a9683953ac599-1483446937
Again BS
At this stage I am knocked up with their prediction.
Ice Shelfs Melting and Glaciers Melting.....Read the article.. it shows that they are moving from rising Oceans... not from too many people... They have lost half of their islands... of course they are overcrowded now
I agree about you guys down south having a colder winter... but man, it's getting hotter up here... :/
Breaking News today on the Radio... A Croc was spotted sunning itself on a boat ramp on the Sunshine Coast Yesterday.... Wouldn't surprise me cause there have been a few "sightings" around Bribie Island for a long time now....
LoneWolf...
I agree about you guys down south having a colder winter... but man, it's getting hotter up here... :/
Breaking News today on the Radio... A Croc was spotted sunning itself on a boat ramp on the Sunshine Coast Yesterday.... Wouldn't surprise me cause there have been a few "sightings" around Bribie Island for a long time now....
LoneWolf...
Hi Lonewolf
As I have said a lot of these people are on the gravy train,they will say anything for a good living,and attack any one that disagrees with them.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...sea-ice-would-melt-entirely-by-september-201/
Then there is the antarctic,they have reason for the ice growing
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...k=338cb067b54b8050a37a9683953ac599-1483514261
Here is Australia & NZ altering the figures along with their mates at East Anglia,as I said all aboard the gravy train,or heads in the trough.you need to read well down.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...rst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
They keep coming up with "2016 hotest on record" BS,couple hot days above 35 and it is "scorcher.
They want control people,best way frighten the hell out of them.
As I have said a lot of these people are on the gravy train,they will say anything for a good living,and attack any one that disagrees with them.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...sea-ice-would-melt-entirely-by-september-201/
Then there is the antarctic,they have reason for the ice growing
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...k=338cb067b54b8050a37a9683953ac599-1483514261
Here is Australia & NZ altering the figures along with their mates at East Anglia,as I said all aboard the gravy train,or heads in the trough.you need to read well down.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...rst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
They keep coming up with "2016 hotest on record" BS,couple hot days above 35 and it is "scorcher.
They want control people,best way frighten the hell out of them.
