Dont ya love this?

[Greglz86]

Last time i went home I spoke to a mate of mine who knew of some old mines. I was curious and went out for a look as I couldnt find them on any Database and there were some old gold mines near by. The only way my mate knows about them is that he used to use them for bike jumps when he was a kid. When I got there I was greated with this nice looking sign and a locked gate.

Spoke to my mate and asked when was this done. Apparently it was only done recently. He seems to think the only reason for this was to stop people on unregistered motorbikes and Illigally getting firewood. He didnt tell me as he didnt know it mattered when it comes to swinging a metal detector.

Leaving the detector in the ute I went for a walk anyway. And these are what I found.

What do you guys reckon? Would it have been worth the look? But I guess I will never know what treasures are hidden around there.

Greg

 

[jason78]

Geez, it would be tempting, make a midnight run maybe lol, i don't think i could help my self i would have to have a look.

but that is just me.

jason

 

[Greglz86]

My mate says the authorities go around there just as much as they used to. Never. And locals would be more concerned with other illegal activities. None the less this spot is in clear view of the road and with my luck the one day they drive past would be the one day I was there. Murpheys law really :/

Greg

 

[Greglz86]

Geez, it would be tempting, make a midnight run maybe lol, i don't think i could help my self i would have to have a look.

but that is just me.

jason

The one problem with going out there at midnight I would probably fall down one of the bloody holes. Ha ha

 

[Ramjet]

Sorry to be a spoil sport but I reckon without permission, don't do it.
If it's only locked to keep bikes out then maybe they would let you in?
Our hobby doesn't need bad publicity.
Just my 2 cents.

Rod

 

[Pr2cv]

Here ,here

 

[Greglz86]

Sorry to be a spoil sport but I reckon without permission, don't do it.
If it's only locked to keep bikes out then maybe they would let you in?
Our hobby doesn't need bad publicity.
Just my 2 cents.

Rod

Totally agree. Just a shame how another spot is off bounds to us guys just because of miss use in the past. I hope one day they come to realize the little impact we make and allow us to do what we do. But I don't see that happening.

Greg

 

[jason78]

don't get me wrong, i am not saying go and break the rules, i was just saying i don't know what i would do if i was faced with that situation

 

[Greglz86]

Basically I've moved on. Unless there is a way to go into a nature reserve legally. But I don't think there is. At least I know not to drive 3.5 hours just to go there

Greg

 

[shivan]

This is where i get a little confused with reserves in NSW. From what i have read, i believe that any restrictions to a reserve must be stated, i.e the first photo of the gate. As there are no restrictions to fossicking i would believe it to be ok...... Let me dig round see if i can find the info again.

 

[farmeroz]

Good point shivan. The sign does say you can go bushwalking/ hiking... just dont hurt yourself in there tho.

 

[HeadsUp]

This is where i get a little confused with reserves in NSW. From what i have read, i believe that any restrictions to a reserve must be stated, i.e the first photo of the gate. As there are no restrictions to fossicking i would believe it to be ok...... Let me dig round see if i can find the info again.

Good point . it isn't a national park , it's not a conservation area

So what is a nature reserve and do they have any rules or regulations written as law anywhere ?

Wouldn't it be nice if it turns out that fossicking is only illegal there if you do it while riding a motorcycle , horse or while walking your dog

 

[Guest]

Unless there is a designated area/fossicking area in the parks management plan then fossicking is generally not allowed. See if you can get a copy of it - you might get lucky & its allowable although:

"The National Parks and Wildlife Regulation 2009 Clause 16 Cultural heritage - 3) A person must not in a park:
(a) use any metal detector or other apparatus for detecting any metal or metal object

"park" :
(a) when used as a noun, means a national park, historic site, state conservation area, regional park, nature reserve, karst conservation reserve or Aboriginal area, or any land acquired by the Minister under Part 11 of the Act, and includes all roads and waters within the boundaries of any such park, site, area, reserve or land"
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/npawr2009338/

 

[shivan]

"The National Parks and Wildlife Regulation 2009 Clause 16 Cultural heritage - 3) A person must not in a park:
(a) use any metal detector or other apparatus for detecting any metal or metal object

Wildlife,fauna and vegetation reserves do not allways fall under national parks. I thought there were similar rules until i looked into a reserve that was trying to get opened up for fossicking and realised that nowhere was fossicking on the restricted list of activities, and from what i gathered the only restrictions on reserves are what is stated on the sign. But the area i was looking into was not national park but a state forest reserve.
Make sure to check this out for yourself though, if you do a search for the reserve government report there should be more information in that.

 

[HeadsUp]

"The National Parks and Wildlife Regulation 2009 Clause 16 Cultural heritage - 3) A person must not in a park:
(a) use any metal detector or other apparatus for detecting any metal or metal object

Wildlife,fauna and vegetation reserves do not allways fall under national parks. I thought there were similar rules until i looked into a reserve that was trying to get opened up for fossicking and realised that nowhere was fossicking on the restricted list of activities, and from what i gathered the only restrictions on reserves are what is stated on the sign. But the area i was looking into was not national park but a state forest reserve.
Make sure to check this out for yourself though, if you do a search for the reserve government report there should be more information in that.

if anyone finds a written clarification it would be good , would need to be checked with each state body but if fossicking is not excluded from their definition , and " reserve " is not excluded then blokes and ladies would be free to carefully roam with detector in hand and printed statute in pocket.


on a side note ;

property owners who deny access to detectorists might sometimes change their mind if you offer to plant a dozen tree seedlings on their property while you're out there digging up little nuggets.

just a thought.

 

[Guest]

As with all bureaucracy its as clear as mud :/

 

[HeadsUp]

As with all bureaucracy its as clear as mud :/

depends who you talk to.

years ago i spoke to a young lady in a govt department about an issue where there was no clear law or ruling , i explained to her my position as to how it relates to my business , after a brief silence she agreed and said she would look into it.

i thought " yeah yeah "


but it blew my socks off when less than a year later the regulations had been ammended nationally and a rule had been introduced to give a tax advantage in the part of the sector i had enquired about.

big hats off to the person who had the brains to see that the situation could be improved , and the management above her that cared enough to implement change.

the change would have occured eventually anyway , it was just something govt had overlooked for the previous ten years due to not keeping up with developments in technology out there.

miracles can happen.