Not this year their not.Haven’t heard of one as yet on the forum, but, i reckon some of the Minelab Dist, will be flogging some stock off for Christmas.
Changes in Victoria's prospecting rules
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Just a post to let members know that a further post I made doubling down on criticisms about the S7 issue has, after review by moderators, been withdrawn.
I have been correctly reminded that interpretation of the changes as representing a ban on recreational prospecting in areas designated as S7 are yet to be confirmed with absolute certainty by government sources.
This also requires that I take some action in this regard and I have already sent a request by email for clarification to Parks Vic, who I believe would be responsible for policing illegal prospecting on Crown land. I am hoping for a better result than the lack of response given to Oz Geology following his earlier enquiries.
I will post again when and if a response is obtained.
I have also been reminded that posts should not contain any political referencing and this I also accept and withdraw any suggestions that politicians of any political persuasion should be approached at this time until further clarification is obtained
Access to areas for recreational prospecting is something dear to my heart and remember the anguish caused to many of us by the proposed Box Ironbark regulations in 2002. The actions of the PMAV and its members among others were responsible for many of the prime prospecting areas of the GT remaining open to this day. I sincerely apologise for letting my emotions get in the way good forum conduct.
I have been correctly reminded that interpretation of the changes as representing a ban on recreational prospecting in areas designated as S7 are yet to be confirmed with absolute certainty by government sources.
This also requires that I take some action in this regard and I have already sent a request by email for clarification to Parks Vic, who I believe would be responsible for policing illegal prospecting on Crown land. I am hoping for a better result than the lack of response given to Oz Geology following his earlier enquiries.
I will post again when and if a response is obtained.
I have also been reminded that posts should not contain any political referencing and this I also accept and withdraw any suggestions that politicians of any political persuasion should be approached at this time until further clarification is obtained
Access to areas for recreational prospecting is something dear to my heart and remember the anguish caused to many of us by the proposed Box Ironbark regulations in 2002. The actions of the PMAV and its members among others were responsible for many of the prime prospecting areas of the GT remaining open to this day. I sincerely apologise for letting my emotions get in the way good forum conduct.
Hope theres not another eureka stockade
Too many good men died there, sadly. It should never have come to that.
Found this little article from 2022
https://earthresources.vic.gov.au/_...avely-S7-Ground-Release-February-2022-Web.pdf
Perhaps this has been around a whie with the boundaries changed.
Or ive misnderstood?.
Anyay big mining companies can always get around this sort of thing.
We all should just leave victoria.
https://earthresources.vic.gov.au/_...avely-S7-Ground-Release-February-2022-Web.pdf
Perhaps this has been around a whie with the boundaries changed.
Or ive misnderstood?.
Anyay big mining companies can always get around this sort of thing.
We all should just leave victoria.
Links below relative also.
Some of i`m shore most likely already on PA.
GS will sort it out within the speed of light.
Bills are available online if you now what you are looking for.
Long wind-ed though.
https://resources.vic.gov.au/licensing-approvals/mineral-licences/section-7-exemptions
https://resources.vic.gov.au/licensing-approvals/fossicking/where-you-can-prospect-and-fossick
https://resources.vic.gov.au/licens...ick/rivers-and-streams-where-you-cant-fossick
https://resources.vic.gov.au/projects/target-minerals-exploration-initiative
https://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/bills/all-bills
https://earthresources.vic.gov.au/_.../Code-of-practice-for-mineral-exploration.pdf
https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-07/10-62aa026-authorised.pdf
This Topic has certainly picked up attention and momentem.
Some of i`m shore most likely already on PA.
GS will sort it out within the speed of light.
Bills are available online if you now what you are looking for.
Long wind-ed though.
https://resources.vic.gov.au/licensing-approvals/mineral-licences/section-7-exemptions
https://resources.vic.gov.au/licensing-approvals/fossicking/where-you-can-prospect-and-fossick
https://resources.vic.gov.au/licens...ick/rivers-and-streams-where-you-cant-fossick
https://resources.vic.gov.au/projects/target-minerals-exploration-initiative
https://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/bills/all-bills
https://earthresources.vic.gov.au/_.../Code-of-practice-for-mineral-exploration.pdf
https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-07/10-62aa026-authorised.pdf
This Topic has certainly picked up attention and momentem.
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The video is horrible and as clear as mud.
Someone raging against something without clearly explaining what’s happening doesn’t help any one.
The questions that need answers
1. What changes have been made
2. Who do they apply too
3 why have they been put in place
People should try prospecting nsw, most of my local area is protected.
Someone raging against something without clearly explaining what’s happening doesn’t help any one.
The questions that need answers
1. What changes have been made
2. Who do they apply too
3 why have they been put in place
People should try prospecting nsw, most of my local area is protected.
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I think they will have trouble policing these areas. There are some who prospect at 2am in the morning with no head lamps etc and have been doing so for along time. Are they going to monitor these areas 24/7? 365 days a year.
If you look at your Property Title, it should state how deep you own . Mine is 5 mts
What to make of this .
The pictures below are new EL exploration license applications areas in Victoria Submissions close Dec 11th.
The company is Critical New Age Minerals PTY LTD .
https://cnam.com.au/
It seems unjust relative to the Topic in hand in comparison especially when pic 4 shows EL`s in Blue approved.
I doubt any response will be given to anyone requesting correspondence with any Ministers.
That is my personal experiences with top end Gov Departments ( Public Servants ) ...
Place a name on a public pedestal notice board results maybe more promising.
The Act states clearly S7. 4
The Minister must publish changes in the Government Gazette and make record in the Mining Register.
Heads or Wickets .
Mineral Resources Sustainable Development Act Section 7
https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/mrda1990432/s7.html
Mineral Resources Sustainable Development Act Amendment Bill 2023
https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/bills/601017bi1.pdf
The pictures below are new EL exploration license applications areas in Victoria Submissions close Dec 11th.
The company is Critical New Age Minerals PTY LTD .
https://cnam.com.au/
It seems unjust relative to the Topic in hand in comparison especially when pic 4 shows EL`s in Blue approved.
I doubt any response will be given to anyone requesting correspondence with any Ministers.
That is my personal experiences with top end Gov Departments ( Public Servants ) ...
Place a name on a public pedestal notice board results maybe more promising.
The Act states clearly S7. 4
The Minister must publish changes in the Government Gazette and make record in the Mining Register.
Heads or Wickets .
Mineral Resources Sustainable Development Act Section 7
https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/mrda1990432/s7.html
Mineral Resources Sustainable Development Act Amendment Bill 2023
https://content.legislation.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/bills/601017bi1.pdf
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Im still confused by all of this. So, this is not a NEW law or whatever, but a change to an old one. On Geovic, none of the colours, green, blue or red, are available to us amatuer fossickers, right? Did the government give a reason for these changes? And these changes were immediately put in place without telling people? It would have been fair to send an email to all people with a Victorian fossicking license.
So these changes are final, and not on some sort of trial? Very very confused.
I presume these changes were put in place due to bad behaviour, such as littering or digging massive holes, so it would be much fairer if they toughened laws on those things rather than outright banning prospecting.
If all these restrictions are being made, they should make us a map which shows where you CAN fossick so we dont have to crosscheck between the banned creeks, exempt forests and now geovic.
Some serious changes need to be made on this. Problem is, the odds of the government even listening to our recommendations are very slim. Sorry for this rant!
So these changes are final, and not on some sort of trial? Very very confused.
I presume these changes were put in place due to bad behaviour, such as littering or digging massive holes, so it would be much fairer if they toughened laws on those things rather than outright banning prospecting.
If all these restrictions are being made, they should make us a map which shows where you CAN fossick so we dont have to crosscheck between the banned creeks, exempt forests and now geovic.
Some serious changes need to be made on this. Problem is, the odds of the government even listening to our recommendations are very slim. Sorry for this rant!
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Here is how to find it the red , green and teal areas on Geovic Very hard to find on the menu but here it is ;
I AM STILL GOING OUT BUSH. IVE JUST RETIRED AND WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME PANNING AND DETECTING LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS
Restricted crown land...(MRSDA).......green
so if I'm reading this right......this is a no go?.....
so if I'm reading this right......this is a no go?.....
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Red..............Unavailable crown land....... no go?
Green.........Restricted crown land....... no go?
Green.........Restricted crown land....... no go?
Victorian Government Gazette.
Minerals Exploration and Mining Sustainable Development Section 7 .
24th October 2024.
Scroll page 36 . Print page 2130
Link below.
https://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/gazette/Gazettes2024/GG2024G043.pdf#page=36
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Maybe the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party want a couple of new members?
The "Shooters, Fishers, Farmers and Prospectors Party" seems to have a bit of a ring to it.
The "Shooters, Fishers, Farmers and Prospectors Party" seems to have a bit of a ring to it.
Just a follow up/
I mentioned that I had emailed Parks Vic for clarification as to whether the S7 provisions specifically banned recreational prospecting. I cited the Nerrina area as the example rather than confuse the issue.
"Hi Geoff,
Thank you for your email.
I have forwarded your enquiry through to the attention of the local management team.
Please let us know if we can assist further.
Reference: #XXXXXXX
Kind regards XXXXXXX"
I presume the local management team (Ballarat?) would also be the ones authorised with policing the rules and it is now incumbent on them to provide a definitive clarification and hope that a response will be forthcoming without undue delay.
Unless clarification comes from other sources I will update with any further responses.
I mentioned that I had emailed Parks Vic for clarification as to whether the S7 provisions specifically banned recreational prospecting. I cited the Nerrina area as the example rather than confuse the issue.
"Hi Geoff,
Thank you for your email.
I have forwarded your enquiry through to the attention of the local management team.
Please let us know if we can assist further.
Reference: #XXXXXXX
Kind regards XXXXXXX"
I presume the local management team (Ballarat?) would also be the ones authorised with policing the rules and it is now incumbent on them to provide a definitive clarification and hope that a response will be forthcoming without undue delay.
Unless clarification comes from other sources I will update with any further responses.
Interesting Hawkear that Parks have passed it onto their local management team. My response is not specifically related to this thread but more re: 'who actually polices recreational prospectors'?
I spoke to the regional director of Parks about 2 years ago and asked re: the whole exempt streams thing, was panning in the Ovens River actually illegal and if Parks had anything to do with it. The main reason for asking is that the Ovens and Buckland rivers are on the exempt list but the Alpine Shire advertises for tourists to get a Miner's Right and pan in the Oven's river! He knew exactly what I was talking about but said that Parks do not police any that, even if a member of the public reported a specific incident to a Parks officer right there and then.
He said the only people he knew of that could police anything would be from the Minerals Office in Benalla (I am in Northeast Vic) and he said that this was only if someone actually reported an incident. Otherwise, they are not out "looking" for people doing the wrong thing.
It is amusing that some shiny @rse in an office keeps coming up with all of these rules but no-one is actually out there to police it. Not that we want the new (possible) laws enforced anyway.
Be interesting re: what response you get
I spoke to the regional director of Parks about 2 years ago and asked re: the whole exempt streams thing, was panning in the Ovens River actually illegal and if Parks had anything to do with it. The main reason for asking is that the Ovens and Buckland rivers are on the exempt list but the Alpine Shire advertises for tourists to get a Miner's Right and pan in the Oven's river! He knew exactly what I was talking about but said that Parks do not police any that, even if a member of the public reported a specific incident to a Parks officer right there and then.
He said the only people he knew of that could police anything would be from the Minerals Office in Benalla (I am in Northeast Vic) and he said that this was only if someone actually reported an incident. Otherwise, they are not out "looking" for people doing the wrong thing.
It is amusing that some shiny @rse in an office keeps coming up with all of these rules but no-one is actually out there to police it. Not that we want the new (possible) laws enforced anyway.
Be interesting re: what response you get
