Aerial baiting, Baits - 1080 information and questions

[LONEWOLF]

I was of the mind that the SSAA were a good bunch.... Why do you think they aren't RH... just curious..

LW...

 

[Simmo]

I remember reading your comments back then, and wholeheartedly agree Steve.
I think I may have typed this story then too....

When we were on Ross River Station, back in the day, the baits were designed to be of a size, that one dog could take, and not fight over....
Big enough that it wouldn't go looking for another one...
Too heavy for a bird to pick up and not affecting reptiles..

Signposted and each bait GPS marked and recovered if not taken after a few days?
I believe out of 21 baits, we put down, we recovered 3.

On our Horse riding trails, I only ever saw one carcass, leading up to some caves in the escarpment...
So I knew where the rest of the dogs would be...

Never went up there.. never looked.. sad job done.

 

[mudgee hunter]

Maybe air drop the hunters in!
Feral cats, foxes and dogs first on the list after politicians

 

[Rockhunter62]

I was of the mind that the SSAA were a good bunch.... Why do you think they aren't RH... just curious..

LW...

Have met far too many of them. New military recruits have more firearm sense than that mob.

Cheers

Doug

 

[LONEWOLF]

Ah ok thanks Doug... now I understand..

LW...

 

[madtuna]

I was of the mind that the SSAA were a good bunch.... Why do you think they aren't RH... just curious..

LW...

Have met far too many of them. New military recruits have more firearm sense than that mob.

Cheers

Doug

Have to agree. The amount of requests we get to come shoot on the station is huge. If they say they are SSAA and part of farmer assist program it's an instant no.

Have absolutely no faith in SSAA as an organization either. An organization that will throw one group of shooters under a bus to save their own commercial operation. :N:

 

[Shep]

It works very well and is pretty much the only method that works on landscape size areas.
Even aerial shooting constantly isnt close to being as effective.

Should mention I am a qualified bombardier so have seen the results

 

[Swinging & digging]

I wish they would do aerial Baiting in my suburb.
A number of cats are using my suburban yard as a toilet, discusting animals.
Also subject from significant nuisance barking by nearby dogs, who's owners can't hear ( selective hearing ).

I would gladly give the chopper pilot a target location and $100 bonus for every crapping cat or barking dog that takes a bait.

 

[Occasional_panner]

Hunting wild dogs is actually very hard in dense bush, they are very cunning. I don't think hunting on the ground will make a dent.

 

[Greenhornet_au]

As for SSAA, there are many people in that organisation, including me, and I will happily say some are pretty flaky dicks.
You want to well trained and coordinated shooters.

I also am a member of SA Conservation and Wildlife Management, I know for sure we are well trained and definitely co-ordinated,
and you can still find flakes amongst us, when found are sorted fast, BUT we also have had shooters represent as our members and caused major issues with land owners.
We are the originating CWM body in Australia, and unfortunately every SSAA body acts on its own, its a problem if you ask me.
National separate from State and Clubs separate again.

Sorry to hear you guys have had such a bad experience, the Farmers Assist Program is not the best with management as far as I know.


I think that to hunt wild dogs in the denser bush blocks, you need to have some old skills, use a mix of lures and cunning,
baits, traps and know the lay of the land.

You need to be able to read the land from a dogs eye, understand their thoughts.
AND lots of paid time to focus.

Anyone know of Tom Varney ?
https://www.petersenshunting.com/editorial/tom-varney-dog-hunting-legend/272946

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkioRo8pcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hsP2xORt2Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl2-7RnDz3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oQbKqH62vs

https://australianhuntingpodcast.com.au/ahp-3-hunting-with-tom-varney/

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/biosecur...est-animals-in-nsw/wild-dogs/wild-dog-control

 

[savage bitter]

have been aerial baiting for a lot of years it works hunting them down on foot you can walk or drive around and never see a thing for weeks
sporting shooters are a bit of a joke just because you own a rifle dont really mean that you can use it

 

[madtuna]

Spot on!
A rule of thumb is if you see a dog - you have a dog problem.

I bopped 80 last year and probably seen 200, and that is just this 1 station.
If you just relied on shooters your dog problem would multiply exponentially. Baits are horrible but they are the best weapon we have.

 

[shakergt]

As for SSAA, there are many people in that organisation, including me, and I will happily say some are pretty flaky dicks.
You want to well trained and coordinated shooters.

I also am a member of SA Conservation and Wildlife Management, I know for sure we are well trained and definitely co-ordinated,
and you can still find flakes amongst us, when found are sorted fast, BUT we also have had shooters represent as our members and caused major issues with land owners.
We are the originating CWM body in Australia, and unfortunately every SSAA body acts on its own, its a problem if you ask me.
National separate from State and Clubs separate again.

Sorry to hear you guys have had such a bad experience, the Farmers Assist Program is not the best with management as far as I know.


I think that to hunt wild dogs in the denser bush blocks, you need to have some old skills, use a mix of lures and cunning,
baits, traps and know the lay of the land.

You need to be able to read the land from a dogs eye, understand their thoughts.
AND lots of paid time to focus.

Anyone know of Tom Varney ?
https://www.petersenshunting.com/editorial/tom-varney-dog-hunting-legend/272946

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkioRo8pcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hsP2xORt2Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl2-7RnDz3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oQbKqH62vs

https://australianhuntingpodcast.com.au/ahp-3-hunting-with-tom-varney/

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/biosecur...est-animals-in-nsw/wild-dogs/wild-dog-control

Tom Varney. Why I have some of his DVDs I am sure he was also known as the dog master. I am also with you on this steve 1080 is horrid and cruel stuff. I have seen a dog die from 1080 poisoning and if I had a firearm handy I would have shot the dog to end its suffering. Unfortunately it is the most effective method out there at the moment for controlling dogs and foxs. It is very debatable how effective it is on cats.

 

[Rockhunter62]

Here is a new bait for cats, hope it works because they are too fast for me to shoot them on my bore runs.

http://www.sportingshooter.com.au/l...y-could-dent-australian-feral-cat-populations

Cheers

Doug

 

[Greenhornet_au]

LOL

I like that, "Curiosity" killed the cats

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If it is Cat specific, I will pay for it to be used, hate the wild _uckers passionately !!

A kept pet that is restricted in home, no problem,
left to roam the neighbourhood, NOT good - owners need to be responsible.

 

[Tathradj]

We have a cat.
Locked inside at night,
Too scared to leave the property. Hangs
around the house looking for a feed or a pat.
Bloody hopless hunter. We over feed him a
little bit to keep him heavy as he is a big cat.
Oh, He only has the memories, Not the urge anymore.

I absolutley have no time for ferals. In my shooting days
they stood no chance. 243 soon sorted that out.
Only thing wrong is you cannot eat them, well not me any way. LOL

 

[Rockhunter62]

All domestic cats should be locked into their owners properties all the time, not just nights.

Cheers

Doug

 

[Greenhornet_au]

Maybe they could air drop these on feral cats ?


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[Occasional_panner]

have been aerial baiting for a lot of years it works hunting them down on foot you can walk or drive around and never see a thing for weeks
sporting shooters are a bit of a joke just because you own a rifle dont really mean that you can use it

Yeah, I have been privileged to tag along with some old timers, not even bothering to take a rifle, just keen to observe.
Very big difference between hunters and shooters.

 

[RM Outback]

Here's an interesting invention :Y: another great Aussie invention. This little device is going to serve our native wildlife troubled by Feral cats and foxes well, it's aimed at the mongrel Feral Cats erfect: :clap: :clap: :clap:

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/conservationists-use-autonomous-baiting-device-on-feral-cats-548866