Actual depth possible

[ironrock]

Steelpat, Ridgerunner mentioned he has found tunnel supports at 6 feet down, can you say without a doubt that the SD series would`nt of found this also, considering an 90 ounce nugget is not that large in comparison, after all it matters on the size of the object , does it not?
That`s what i was pointing at, the reason the GPZ 7000 is finding gold on thrashed area`s is it most likely has improved settings on finding smaller gold at greater depth, can you give me a technical explanation for this, if you dont want to, i understand!!!
And until someone actually does a real depth test on a large object , upto 5-6 feet with an SD and a GPZ i will not believe that the GPZ is superior in depth!!!!

 

[Ridge Runner]

Steelpat, Ridgerunner mentioned he has found tunnel supports at 6 feet down, can you say without a doubt that the SD series would`nt of found this also, considering an 90 ounce nugget is not that large in comparison, after all it matters on the size of the object , does it not?
That`s what i was pointing at, the reason the GPZ 7000 is finding gold on thrashed area`s is it most likely has improved settings on finding smaller gold at greater depth, can you give me a technical explanation for this, if you dont want to, i understand!!!
And until someone actually does a real depth test on a large object , upto 5-6 feet with an SD and a GPZ i will not believe that the GPZ is superior in depth!!!!

That Pipe and those Subway Supports were Both Found with a Non Minelab Machine Using Standard 12" Coil,,

With the Gain At 6.5 to 7 and the Pulse set at 25, If the Pulse had been set at 10 then it would have Even Hit them Harder.

 

[SteelPat]

Steelpat, Ridgerunner mentioned he has found tunnel supports at 6 feet down, can you say without a doubt that the SD series would`nt of found this also, considering an 90 ounce nugget is not that large in comparison, after all it matters on the size of the object , does it not?
That`s what i was pointing at, the reason the GPZ 7000 is finding gold on thrashed area`s is it most likely has improved settings on finding smaller gold at greater depth, can you give me a technical explanation for this, if you dont want to, i understand!!!
And until someone actually does a real depth test on a large object , upto 5-6 feet with an SD and a GPZ i will not believe that the GPZ is superior in depth!!!!

Sorry but I am not quite sure why you are coming across so aggressively. I dont know all the technical answers about the GPZ as they are a closely guarded secret by Minelab. All I can tell you is what I have seen in the field and by reports from others.

It seems you are quite anti GPZ. You can believe what you want. I am only reporting what myself and others have experienced.

A 90oz nugget will have most gold detectors going off their nut at 4ft. This will depend on soil type though. There have been other large objects found at depth. A quick Google will give you all the answers you want.

I dont want to be drawn into a debate regarding the GPZ. I like my machine, it does what I want and (for me personally) its worth the money.

 

[ironrock]

Ridgerunner, ATX , Whites ? Did you actually dig 6 feet, if you did i`m glad it was you LOL!!!

 

[Ridge Runner]

STruth 90oz is about 2799.31 Grams,,,, That's MaaHooosive

 

[SteelPat]

STruth 90oz is about 2799.31 Grams,,,, That's MaaHooosive

Yeah as I said, most gold machines would be going crazy. Hopefully after tomorrows trip I will be able to tell you how it sounds lol :lol:

 

[Ridge Runner]

Ridgerunner, ATX , Whites ? Did you actually dig 6 feet, if you did i`m glad it was you LOL!!!

It was The TDI SL and after about a meter and a bit (About Waist High) A Very Nice Person with A Mini Excavator Finished it off for me, lol, It took me the best part of 2 hours and he did the rest in about 7 minutes, lol

And Yes I had no trouble getting to sleep that Night,lol

 

[ironrock]

Steelpat, coming across as aggressive is not my intention, minelab claims GPZ can go 40% deeper than any of it`s previous machines, sorry i probably should be asking them these questions, they should have video proof that can back up their claims, as this is a huge claim which to me or anyone else that can "think" needs to have verifiable proof to back up such huge claims. Just saying!!!

 

[Ridge Runner]

STruth 90oz is about 2799.31 Grams,,,, That's MaaHooosive

Yeah as I said, most gold machines would be going crazy. Hopefully after tomorrows trip I will be able to tell you how it sounds lol :lol:

Well I Think so Too, wouldn't that be something,

I'll be waiting right here, so Take lots of Pictures, I Like Pictures,,,

 

[RedDirtDigger]

Yes the early Minelab gold detectors could go deep. However with the 7000 I have had the crowbar out of the rig 5 times to dig deep targets, two were close to 4 feet deep. All the targets were gold rush era trash and were relatively small( ~ 10 X 3 cm). The 7000 goes deeper then the earlier models (I have owned most since the 2100) because they can filter out interference from noisy/mineralised ground much better then earlier models. Most areas of iron rich clay and other ground that a 5000 struggled on are producing gold that the 5000 could not hear. The 7000 also hears specimens with dispersed gold amazingly well. This gold was not heard by a 5000 at any good depth. The 7000 is getting deep targets and small gold from very good depths. Small gold within about 15 inches of the surface is what makes up most of the gold tallies and the 7000 is exceptional at hearing this gold.

If you detect heaps and normally expect to average 10, 20 or more ounces a year you would already have a 7000.... and many of them are out there now putting in weeks and months in WA, Nth Qld, the triangle or at their old patches.

Having come across strongly I will add that if you can't afford/justify getting a 7000, the 4500, 5000, (or SDC if you like working diggings or small gold) are fine machines and they are capable of paying themselves off in quick time. If your a casual hobbyist get one of the cheaper brands have fun and find a few grams.

RDD

 

[Ridge Runner]

With the 7000 I have had the crowbar out of the rig 5 times to dig deep targets, two were close to 4 feet deep. All the targets were gold rush era trash and were relatively small( ~ 10 X 3 cm). The 7000 goes deeper then the earlier models (I have owned most since the 2100) because they can filter out interference from noisy/mineralised ground much better then earlier models. Most areas of iron rich clay and other ground that a 5000 struggled on are producing gold that the 5000 could not hear. The 7000 also hears specimens with dispersed gold amazingly well. This gold was not heard by a 5000 at any good depth. The 7000 is getting deep targets and small gold from very good depths. Small gold within about 15 inches of the surface is what makes up most of the gold tallies and the 7000 is exceptional at hearing this gold.

If you detect heaps and normally expect to average 10, 20 or more ounces a year you would already have a 7000.... and many of them are out there now putting in weeks and months in WA, Nth Qld, the triangle or at their old patches.

Having come across strongly I will add that if you can't afford/justify getting a 7000, the 4500, 5000, (or SDC if you like working diggings or small gold) are fine machines and they are capable of paying themselves off in quick time.

RDD

So Its not Very Deep then, sorry to hear that,,,lol

Seriously, That's pretty damn deep for a 4x1 1/4" piece of metal if that was a Nugget that would be in the 8 to 12 oz range and that machine would have paid for its self with such Find,

That's Impressive RDD thanks for Posting it.

John

 

[ironrock]

RDD , I`m coming on strong because i want to know the truth? Yeah that`s right turn it back on to me, it`s all my fault that you all believe without proof, you said you`ve dug a few holes near on 4 feet, it still dose`nt prove that it`s a deeper machine than the SD series, i`m talking true maximum depth, i did say that the GPZ has probable better timings on the small gold, which judging by the finds is proving my theory correct.
Ridgerunner said he dug 6 feet on a large target, and he said the machine was`nt maxed out with it`s gain, so probably could have picked this target up at greater depth,which in turn would of surpassed the theoretical maximum depth as discussed before , going by the size of the coil he was using.
I want to know what is the true depth of these machines, so as to make a decision, am i going to chase flyshit or nonexistant large nuggets at great depth which if these machines are capable of going beyond 3 metres, would have been found by now, considering the amount of coils that have passed over the ground at least in vic.
It`s funny how a few of you have turned this around to be about me, and whether i can afford a GPZ, you know what; it`s none of you`re damn bis, got it!
This is about the title of this post, which none of you have so far been able to offer a satisfactory answer to, if you have nothing to offer about this post why even comment.

 

[user 4485]

which if these machines are capable of going beyond 3 metres

Quite simply put - none.

 

[Ramjet]

Keep it civil please people. We all have different opinions and should be able to express them here freely, without it getting personal. If you cannot do that then withdraw yourself from the conversation until you calm down.

Thanks

Ramjet

 

[Ramjet]

This is about the title of this post, which none of you have so far been able to offer a satisfactory answer to, if you have nothing to offer about this post why even comment.

I would REALLY suggest you take your own advice there ironrock.

 

[Ridge Runner]

Group Hug

 

[Ramjet]

Steelpat, Ridgerunner mentioned he has found tunnel supports at 6 feet down, can you say without a doubt that the SD series would`nt of found this also, considering an 90 ounce nugget is not that large in comparison, after all it matters on the size of the object , does it not?
That`s what i was pointing at, the reason the GPZ 7000 is finding gold on thrashed area`s is it most likely has improved settings on finding smaller gold at greater depth, can you give me a technical explanation for this, if you dont want to, i understand!!!
And until someone actually does a real depth test on a large object , upto 5-6 feet with an SD and a GPZ i will not believe that the GPZ is superior in depth!!!!

Sorry but I am not quite sure why you are coming across so aggressively. I dont know all the technical answers about the GPZ as they are a closely guarded secret by Minelab. All I can tell you is what I have seen in the field and by reports from others.

It seems you are quite anti GPZ. You can believe what you want. I am only reporting what myself and others have experienced.

A 90oz nugget will have most gold detectors going off their nut at 4ft. This will depend on soil type though. There have been other large objects found at depth. A quick Google will give you all the answers you want.

I dont want to be drawn into a debate regarding the GPZ. I like my machine, it does what I want and (for me personally) its worth the money.

I don't read ironrock's comment as aggressive so can we all please stick to the topic and calm down. Not a topic I was following but all very interesting.

 

[Ramjet]

Group Hug

You behave

 

[Ridge Runner]

To tell you the Truth, It's not A Thing I would ever try again, because I was so surprised about digging the hole past 30 inches that I kept going and at my age I should know better, Not that I am old but I do have thing to take into account, Even more so considering the speed I was Digging, I was stuffed the next day, if I had done it normally then no probs, But Then the guy offered to do the rest with the mini digger I was stoked, Because I was thinking about giving up.

 

[Ridge Runner]

Group Hug

You behave

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