Cannot buy a miners prospecting pick on eBay because Queensland Police considered as a knife what the #$%*

a member of Lapidary club in Brisbane and one of the things I like doing is fossicking for Gems and certain rock types like petrified wood in outback Queensland only been doing it for the last couple years so I decided that I’ll get small little miners prospecting pick so I looked on E Bay. I found one to buy

It said on eBay due to the restrictions of sale of knives in Queensland this item is not for purchase in your location please see the Queensland Police website for more information

Well I am in my mid fifty’s no criminal records I can’t believe this a miners prospecting pick is considered as weapon well driving a car is weapon too kill peoples every day on our roads so is a steak knife so is a baseball bat in which many people would have under there beds with this youth crime going on to protect themselves

Just wandering how many other items are not actual knifes are caught up in this band in Queensland’s

Probably can't buy cutlery used for eating either. Will need to use hands and be an animal

It's a crazy world.

back to stone tools and walking, oh that's right it's only the police that can have every conceivable piece of weaponry hanging from their body while they wander around protecting us, FFS what a joke

What is the definition of a knife in the Qld law?


(7) In this section— "knife" includes a thing with a sharpened point or blade that is reasonably capable of— (a) being held in 1 or both hands; and. (b) being used to wound or threaten to wound anyone when held in 1 or both hands. "public place" includes a vehicle that is in or on a public place.

Plenty of places in Brisbane that you can buy a small pick, Bunnings have heaps.

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Mackka said:

Plenty of places in Brisbane that you can buy a small pick, Bunnings have heaps.

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and all the detector shops as well, or is it only online like ebay, but what about posting them then, from say NSW to QLD????????

Sent an email to an Ol'mate...

Hi Mark and Team,
Simon White here from Cairns, part of the Gel Blaster and Weapons Licensing Legislative Advisory Team a few yews ago.
You may remember that you quoted my comments on the Legislative changes in your presentation to the QLD Parliament.
Mark, I have been a gold prospector since a boy, in fact to this day still hold mining leases in FNQ.
That being said, I have also been a member of Australia's Premier Gold Prospecting website for many years.
It has been brought up that a member in QLD who fossicks for gems, fossils and petrified wood etc, tried to buy a prospecting pick from Victoria, however the seller would not sell to him, citing QLD law.

What is the definition of a knife in the Qld law?
(7) In this section— "knife" includes a thing with a sharpened point or blade that is reasonably capable of— (a) being held in 1 or both hands; and. (b) being used to wound or threaten to wound anyone when held in 1 or both hands. "public place" includes a vehicle that is in or on a public place.

Now I understand common sense, but do we now stop an axe or gardening tool from being sold from Bunnings?
I thought this law was to stop selling to minors, not to adults. (I can see the Online Vs Face to Face debate here).

Anyway Mark, it would be great if you or your Team could respond and please when you are back up in Cairns, call me for your shout in Coffee again!

Best Regards,
Simon and Sarah White

Martin said:

Probably can't buy cutlery used for eating either. Will need to use hands and be an animal

It's a crazy world.

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Yes Martin stupidity reigns supreme. There would be very few if any households that do not possess a sizeable knife, meat cleaver or set of screwdrivers capable of killing someone. Then we get to the tools like large shifting spanners, tyre levers, jack handles not to mention the common garden tools such as shovels, picks, spades and forks. I think the clowns that introduce these bans must be from a different planet. They certainly have no common sense or understanding of the normal Australian household. Maybe they will make us register all of the pre-mentioned potential weapons.. I should not really have said that as some bureaucrat might pick up on it as a good idea to tax and control us further.

I had a similar thing happen many years ago when I was living in SA. The clowns there said that what I wanted to bring in was classed as a hidden weapon. - It was over 3 foot long. Soon tent pegs will be{ if not already} illegal. Which, considering that they want to keep us herded in the big smoke , is quite likely.

Mitch$67 said:

a member of Lapidary club in Brisbane and one of the things I like doing is fossicking for Gems and certain rock types like petrified wood in outback Queensland only been doing it for the last couple years so I decided that I’ll get small little miners prospecting pick so I looked on E Bay. I found one to buy

It said on eBay due to the restrictions of sale of knives in Queensland this item is not for purchase in your location please see the Queensland Police website for more information

Well I am in my mid fifty’s no criminal records I can’t believe this a miners prospecting pick is considered as weapon well driving a car is weapon too kill peoples every day on our roads so is a steak knife so is a baseball bat in which many people would have under there beds with this youth crime going on to protect themselves

Just wandering how many other items are not actual knifes are caught up in this band in Queensland’s

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Try the miners den and see if they will post it, i got mine from coiltek in maryborough vic and posted to nsw

Mitch$67 said:

a member of Lapidary club in Brisbane and one of the things I like doing is fossicking for Gems and certain rock types like petrified wood in outback Queensland only been doing it for the last couple years so I decided that I’ll get small little miners prospecting pick so I looked on E Bay. I found one to buy

It said on eBay due to the restrictions of sale of knives in Queensland this item is not for purchase in your location please see the Queensland Police website for more information

Well I am in my mid fifty’s no criminal records I can’t believe this a miners prospecting pick is considered as weapon well driving a car is weapon too kill peoples every day on our roads so is a steak knife so is a baseball bat in which many people would have under there beds with this youth crime going on to protect themselves

Just wandering how many other items are not actual knifes are caught up in this band in Queensland’s

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Gee the control freaks are hard at it trying to restrict owe freedom , any one can pick up a rock or piece of stick/ ,timber in the bush or any thing and use as a weapon if they are that far gone beginning to be a joke the mentality of the authorities now days

Ah, a wise person once said, "The law is an ass!"
When you read the definition, Section 7 states, knife means, ..... (a)(b). They are connected by AND not OR.
If you read it then, to be a knife it must be sharpened as described AND being used to threaten, wound etc.
Of course that doesn't help the Lapidary member purchasing through that particular eBay seller.
In my opinion, unless the pick was being used as a weapon, it couldn't be considered a "knife."

It could also just be eBay being overzealous with their knife selling rules:
eBay knife rules
If you read through it list things for Qld like Axes or tomahawks, Sickles or scythes.
They could be classing a prospectors pick as a pickaxe?

Long story short is that I'd be trying another online retailer.

mbasko said:

It could also just be eBay being overzealous with their knife selling rules:
eBay knife rules
If you read through it list things for Qld like Axes or tomahawks, Sickles or scythes.
They could be classing a prospectors pick as a pickaxe?

Long story short is that I'd be trying another online retailer.

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I agree, you can message sellers direct to bypass these issues, I’d guess eBay uses AI to determine
State laws, I had to get staff at the self serve registers at Bunnings today to allow me to buy stabiliser after scanning pool salt? Apparently dangerous chemicals.

Hippyty79 said:

I agree, you can message sellers direct to bypass these issues, I’d guess eBay uses AI to determine
State laws, I had to get staff at the self serve registers at Bunnings today to allow me to buy stabiliser after scanning pool salt? Apparently dangerous chemicals.

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I've got a pretty basic view of AI (in general use) - it's not that intelligent

I’ll be honest AI is pretty scary, particularly when I first heard about it years ago being used in weapons in koreas borders.
If you don’t think it intelligent ask it to do an essay on a subject.

The thread is about QLD Knife laws.. not AI per se...

Wanna talk AI... start a new thread.

Sorry I was only suggesting AI may have been used within eBay to flag the purchase where the OP tried to purchase.

Caravanning in the GT this week. Left our kitchen knife at home. Looking to get an inexpensive replacement, We tried a Woolies in Bendigo but they had none among all the other kitchen stuff.
Went into two nearby op shops and they had none either. Spoke to one of the managers at one and was told they do not sell them for safety reasons!!!!
I am not sure the Qld knife laws are an isolated thing.