"Wireless SDC2300" acheived !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rc62burke]

gen I would be the go for you !

the 2300 only has a head phone plug that goes in ????

everything after the detector is optional yeah ????

Doc
The SDC has an internal battery compartment that takes 4x c cells, the audio is via either an on board speaker (which IMHO is of poor volume) there is a headphone plug which takes a specific plug (Nenad has made an adapter) you can see this in the photos above, from here you can plug in your choice of headphones speaker, booster or wireless set-up, hope this explains it.
cheers
Lee
ps I would be very interested in testing or purchasing a booster of you, PM me if you like with a price, maybe you can send me some more pics & more detailed info via email??????

 

[user 4485]

Hi All
Here are a few pics showing the components & how it will be set up,
this one is a shot of it all laid out.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3889_zpsmjhsmwyh.jpg

this one shows the RX unit with the 3.5mm x 6mm (Black & orange bit) plugged into the it, the speaker is for example only.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3890_zpspg630nyc.jpg

Here is the connection showing the patch lead ( Phasetech lead) with the end of the 6mm to 3.5mm lead plugged into it.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3893_zpsmcprur6k.jpg

I have tucked the 2m long lead down the side of the control box this is about where I will put the TX unit.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3894_zpsmphujekb.jpg
it will be held in place by the flap on the box cover.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3896_zpsuraxeb1b.jpg
cheers
Lee

Thanks for that Lee It looks really promising.
Do you think that if you were to convert the speaker lead [or dual speaker set] jack end from a 6mm to a standard 3.5mm jack you could eliminate the adapter completely and minimize any chance of speaker drop-out due to eventual wear and tear in the connections ??.
Im thinking a drive to J-car this weekend is a must.
Cheers mate
ChrisM

Something like these might eliminate too many joins/connections:
[video=480,360]https://youtu.be/GfM-3Z1Sdv4[/video]

 

[Heatho]

i will soon have enough Dickie amp/boosters to sell

if any one is keen

More info please!!!!
Cheers
Lee

am i building these

[video=480,360]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzo3-Y5JNEg[/video]

when gen II is ready i shall let you know

Doc
Interesting!!!! how long till you have something to field test ??? the current stuff is a little overpriced & prone to issues from what I have heard.
cheers
Lee

that unit has been field tested extensively and worx very well

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../xjD2w1pbeI0/w927-h521-no/WP_20141215_002.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-.../JVBVKaPLtjk/w927-h521-no/WP_20141215_006.jpg

the audio in the vid from hillend i posted is the audio quality

[video=480,360]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JNsE7uu1gI[/video]

In my opinion Doctor, audio quality means nothing while detecting, in my opinion you want the signal loud and nasty while maintaining an extremely low internal noise floor. You want it to jump out at you to grab your attention. Check out the freq resonse chart of "Grey Ghost"cans, they only reproduce what you need. In my opinion you want lower impedance headphones that are more sensitive to small signals.

I reckon the $20 chinese guitar amps are perfect for the job also, loud and nasty.

 

[Guest]

i cannot build these for 20 bucks, darn cheap chiness imports do it again

 

[rc62burke]

i cannot build these for 20 bucks, darn cheap chiness imports do it again

Hey Doc
I bought 2 of these CHEAP Guitar amps & gee they make good paper weights so let me know what you need for one please!
cheers
Lee

 

[user 4485]

i cannot build these for 20 bucks, darn cheap chiness imports do it again

Hey Doc
I bought 2 of these CHEAP Guitar amps & gee they make good paper weights so let me know what you need for one please!
cheers
Lee

Ya must've got a dud batch Lee? :lol: Both mine work as good as anything else I've had but I can see if dropped etc. there could be issues!
If someone can ever put something out there that is robust, has cabling/leads that are heavy duty for the conditions + replaceable, works as intended & is a reasonable price I'll be straight onto one too. At the moment the Chinese ones do me as they work as intended (mine do anyways ), you can cable them with heavy duty guitar leads & they are as cheap as chips. Robust - well no!
The only set up I never had issues with was the Rooster Booster but it had a different type of speaker plug/socket so wasn't compatible with other spares etc. (& wouldn't fit the SDC either). The leads/cables on the Rooster Booster would be susceptible to damage as well if not careful with placement etc. Others always seem to develop issues with leads/cabling & probably more so on the SDC although the B&Z has partially addressed it with replaceable leads on new models. I am always fairly careful with them but still had issues on the GPX5000 as well. Fixed leads on the SDC is just asking for problems in my opinion. Tried 2 x types & both had failed leads quickly. Having the booster separate to the speaker is a pain too. All in one units are the go in my opinion & reduce further joins/wear points.
None of them do anything particularly better than the other audio wise.
So that's my wish list:- a cheap, robust, replaceable heavy duty cables, all in one unit that just simply does the job without failing. Not asking for much am I :lol:

 

[AngerManagement]

Watch this space.

 

[rc62burke]

Watch this space.

Mate can you provide any more information???
As I don't want to spend time & money if you are making what I need, please don't leave us in the dark.
Happy to support locally developed equipment!!!!!!!!
cheers
Lee

 

[AngerManagement]

Watch this space.

Mate can you provide any more information???
As I don't want to spend time & money if you are making what I need, please don't leave us in the dark.
Happy to support locally developed equipment!!!!!!!!
cheers
Lee

i have repaired and worked on a few of the boosters. not over the moon with results vs cost.

i have also tried a few of the guitar units and like some more than others...

but Deteknix are releasing a wireless waterproof transmitter (boost and sound quality) and wireless headphones with little / no lag delay. this lag that many other systems have is a pain when your moving...

watch my web store and my dealer page; as i am hoping to have a few in stock shortly. if as good as i expect; then i will stock bulk quanties.

 

[rc62burke]

Watch this space.

Mate can you provide any more information???
As I don't want to spend time & money if you are making what I need, please don't leave us in the dark.
Happy to support locally developed equipment!!!!!!!!
cheers
Lee

i have repaired and worked on a few of the boosters. not over the moon with results vs cost.

i have also tried a few of the guitar units and like some more than others...

but Deteknix are releasing a wireless waterproof transmitter (boost and sound quality) and wireless headphones with little / no lag delay. this lag that many other systems have is a pain when your moving...

watch my web store and my dealer page; as i am hoping to have a few in stock shortly. if as good as i expect; then i will stock bulk quanties.

Thanks for the update!!!

As I have got the "Wireless" thing sorted!! I am now focused on getting the "Booster & speaker" combo sorted, as I personally prefer not to have headphones (currently use underchin ear buds) a good quality relliable "Booster/ speaker" is a must have, even better if it can be done by 1 unit, but 2 parts will do, I know there are boosters currently available but the quality is questionable? I think folks just accept them as there are few other options, I am very interested to see what the "Doctor" has produced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheers
Lee

 

[rc62burke]

Hi All
Well I had the opportunity to give it a really good field test on the SDC over 5 day's (full days).

I found these units very easy to use & the initial "Pairing" at each start up is very easy!!!!!
I found that if you get your body in between the 2 units it breaks up the signal & gets a bit noisy!!!
I experienced a bit of crackle at some points, but found by giving the plug into the receive unit a twist was enough to sort it out, over all through the day it operated very well.
there "IS" a little "Lag" but I found when you slow down your swing to pin point it is of no real issue.
I found that there appears to be a little "Boost" in the volume when using this system I found this out late one day when the wireless batteries went flat & I had to go back to standard connection, as I felt the volume was lower.

I found 12 nuggets with this set up so I am quite happy, but I will try to get rid of a couple of the joints in the set up to help reduce any potential crackle, note also that the lead to connect the TX to the SDC adapt lead is 2m long & not great quality (it was cheap for the purposes of testing)
I will still explore the use of a booster with this set-up for use with speakers, as well as looking at all other options to keep it really "Crackle Free"

cheers
Lee

 

[Colmaca]

I"M setting mine up both FM and Bluetooth as well as I was going to go just Bluetooth, then I read there some lag in sound after i orded the transmitter so I changed to FM so I"m doing both
Total cost :Bluetooth headphone $40 aslo can cable to my phone for FM
Wireless 3.5 FM transmitter $7
Bluetooth Transmitter $27

 

[user 4485]

Hi All
Here are a few pics showing the components & how it will be set up,
this one is a shot of it all laid out.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3889_zpsmjhsmwyh.jpg

this one shows the RX unit with the 3.5mm x 6mm (Black & orange bit) plugged into the it, the speaker is for example only.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3890_zpspg630nyc.jpg

Here is the connection showing the patch lead ( Phasetech lead) with the end of the 6mm to 3.5mm lead plugged into it.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3893_zpsmcprur6k.jpg

I have tucked the 2m long lead down the side of the control box this is about where I will put the TX unit.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3894_zpsmphujekb.jpg
it will be held in place by the flap on the box cover.
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab166/rc62burke/DSCF3896_zpsuraxeb1b.jpg
cheers
Lee

Thanks for that Lee It looks really promising.
Do you think that if you were to convert the speaker lead [or dual speaker set] jack end from a 6mm to a standard 3.5mm jack you could eliminate the adapter completely and minimize any chance of speaker drop-out due to eventual wear and tear in the connections ??.
Im thinking a drive to J-car this weekend is a must.
Cheers mate
ChrisM

Something like these might eliminate too many joins/connections:
[video=480,360]https://youtu.be/GfM-3Z1Sdv4[/video]

Got a set of these to trial (Joyo ones in the vid) but the receiver unit was dead on arrival (battery or switch issue) so couldn't test run them Got a refund so no dramas there but can't recommend them on that - shame as having the 6.35mm plug would have removed another join.

 

[user 4485]

Got a set of these to try:
http://www.avantree.com/product-bluetooth-transmitter-and-receiver-avantree-saturn-pro-db-990.html

Only $99.99 & very light + compact. 12 month warranty. I purchased direct from Avantree but then found there are some Australian dealers also.
http://www.gadgets4geeks.com.au/epa...h=/Shops/gadgets4geeks/Products/BTTC-200L-TTN
http://www.mobilezap.com.au/39081-avantree-saturn-bluetooth-music-adapter.htm

Features:
* Bluetooth 3.0 with EDR
* Bluetooth profile: A2DP and AVRCP
* Audio codec: aptX-LL, aptX, SBC, AAC
* Operation Range: Class 2, 10 meters
* Built-in rechargeable li-ion battery (Non-replaceable)
* TX mode working time: up to 15 hours
* RX mode working time: up to 10 hours
* Standby time: up to 150 hours
* Product size: 50mm(L)x37mm(W)X13mm(H)
* Product weight: 48.5g

Quick try in the backyard & they work very well. They are advertised as low latency & I could not pick any lag at all on targets. Very impressive so far. The big test now will be whether they last a full day detecting?

 

[rc62burke]

Good work mate!! keep the info coming on potential products, all we need now is a really reliable small booster & we will be all set!!
Lee

 

[user 4485]

Good work mate!! keep the info coming on potential products, all we need now is a really reliable small booster & we will be all set!!
Lee

Thanks Lee - you finding the Jaycar set up got me going! Thought I might as well try a different type or types to compare & report back on this thread so people can see some different choices etc. + my local Jaycar didn't have them at the time I went in so I did some more searching for alternatives :lol:
That small, but really reliable booster is something I will keep a look out for.
I think of the retail Australian made types the Treasuremate II (VK8014 new model) shows the most promise. Maybe a little bulky to some (I find it good) but it is a speaker/booster unit in one which I prefer to creating more joins (joins equal points of failure to me).
http://www.vkteksolutions.com/
The new VK8014 model has a replaceable cable. I had used the old type VK8024 which had a fixed cable & the only issue I ever had with it was when I started to use it on the SDC the cable failed (no fault of the unit as it was designed with the GPX/GP/SD etc. in mind no doubt & not to be run out to a machine that is constantly being put down/picked up + otherwise moved around) so having the replaceable cable is a great improvement for SDC users especially if hardwired. To make it a really top unit a separate battery door rather than having to unscrew the whole unit would be great too but its not a big drama - just fiddly in the field & I could see some people losing the screws etc. The batteries last a fair few days as well so its not like you are constantly changing them out.

 

[rc62burke]

Hey Mate
Thanks for the info on the VK units as I did have a look at that web-page a few weeks ago so it is great to have some feedback from someone who is using one on the SDC.
cheers
Lee

 

[Colmaca]

I did mine works good with .

Transmitter less than a inch square

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/E3-Bluet...04?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3cfab283c8

Speakers hold on ok swinging a pick .

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151486340684

So far 32 shotgun pellets found 1 trip

 

[user 4485]

Got a set of these to try:
http://www.avantree.com/product-bluetooth-transmitter-and-receiver-avantree-saturn-pro-db-990.html
https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/img/member-images/4485/1437789536__57.jpg

Only $99.99 & very light + compact. 12 month warranty. I purchased direct from Avantree but then found there are some Australian dealers also.
http://www.gadgets4geeks.com.au/epa...h=/Shops/gadgets4geeks/Products/BTTC-200L-TTN
http://www.mobilezap.com.au/39081-avantree-saturn-bluetooth-music-adapter.htm

Features:
* Bluetooth 3.0 with EDR
* Bluetooth profile: A2DP and AVRCP
* Audio codec: aptX-LL, aptX, SBC, AAC
* Operation Range: Class 2, 10 meters
* Built-in rechargeable li-ion battery (Non-replaceable)
* TX mode working time: up to 15 hours
* RX mode working time: up to 10 hours
* Standby time: up to 150 hours
* Product size: 50mm(L)x37mm(W)X13mm(H)
* Product weight: 48.5g

Quick try in the backyard & they work very well. They are advertised as low latency & I could not pick any lag at all on targets. Very impressive so far. The big test now will be whether they last a full day detecting?

Got out yesterday & ran them for around 7hrs (units were left on for the whole day regardless of detecting, travelling between spots, having smoko etc.). The internal battery lasted over that time & they still turn on today without the low battery warning coming up so still have some charge left yet. Guessing I'll get fuller days in without a problem.
Found the same as Lee - they will break up a bit if you get in between them but once you sort out positioning for finding dug out targets they are no problem. Didn't have much if any issue while detecting mainly just retrieving targets. Had the RX hooked up to a LH380 amp/speaker & it worked well on it. Good sound & no noticeable lag at all. Found 3 x small ones using it - one I picked up under leaf litter was only 0.06 gram so no probs hearing or finding it.
As with anything the biggest test now will be time used & how long they keep working in this type of use. They're not what you'd call robust being quite small + light but looked after a bit should be ok. Definitely good to get rid of the cord

 

[tryhard1968]

Hi mbasko,

I tried standard Bluetooth and the lag was just awful, almost impossible to locate targets unless you moved the coil really slow, I have just taken the plunge and
ordered 2 of the Avantree devices for $52/each. I look forward to reporting back my findings in the field.

Rgds

Mark