White TDI pro Oz series detector

[swinger]

Hi Walnliz, Wal.
Thank's for the confirmation of settings and coil Info. No luck this mornings session, 5000 did no better. Worked old scrapes. Needed to give the ankles a break . Certainly find the new advised settings workable, pulled a tiny .22 bullet fragment. Happy to purchase an NF 8x6 coil. Appreciate the help. Goldsearch Australia has a new owner, has anyone clued them up?

I should have said with the GPX 5000 settings supplied, using the Standard Commander Mono 12" coil is the preferred. Using with the amplified speaker,not earphones.

Thanks everyone, Keep you posted. Will photograph the Gold we recovered with the 5000. And Post.

Kindest Bob

 

[Guest]

Bob Dean at Goldsearch Aus is awesome to
Deal with, knows his stuff and won't sell you
Something just for the sake of it.

This has been my experience to date.

On the 5000 are you using the 11" commander
Coil or the 15"x12"?

Good luck with it.

 

[user 4485]

If the 5000 is running in Sensitive Smooth, RX 7 & stability 3-1 I wouldn't be too harsh on the TDI. That ground must be rough.
Good thing about getting a Sadie coil will be that it will be a good coil for the 5000 in that area too if you don't manage to get the TDI purring.

 

[swinger]

Hi mbasko,
I call it a 12" mono coil the commander , but could well be only 11". Being an ex fisherman may have something to do with it. We are working amongst very heavily magnetized, scattered Magnetite, only place I know hotter is around Tennant Creek. Those settings are a dream on the 5000 extremely quiet but very sensitive.
Kindest Bob

 

[user 4485]

Its probably more of a testament of the GPX5000's versatility rather than a beat-up of the TDI's abilities. Doing well to pick those small bits up in amongst that stuff with any detector!
The Minelab Commander mono is indeed an 11" coil as is the supplied DD. The Minelab 11" round mono is a good allrounder in my opinion but an elliptical would be great for fishing around that rocky ground.
A question was raised on here awhile ago as to the difference between the 4500 & 5000. Sensitive Smooth was one of the timings mentioned but from memory nobody had used it so didn't consider it a bonus over the 4500. Its interesting to read how your doing in that magnetite rich area using it & seeing how sensitivity is still there with the low gain & stab settings. I wonder if anyone has tried similar settings in basalt rich areas that also pose problems detecting in?
Be interesting to see how the TDI goes if you move onto a less magnetic area. Have you tried the 11" Minelab coil on it?

 

[swinger]

Hi mbasko,
and Good morning to the very helpful fellow swingers. No I cannot get the coil of my mate Steve long enough to try on the TDI. Should be fine in Basalt country,
here we are also working amongst intrustions of both basalt and granites. You will love the pic of Steve's effort yesterday afternoon, only 1.5 gram in total.
Hard yackka but the 5000 has now bagged just on an ounce, but very poor country has taken 9 days. Planning on a camp shift.

Whilst on here can anyone identify the copper button, about the size of a thrippeny bit , or one cent piece. Recovered at Old Halls Creek.

Also putting up a pic of my extremely poor conditioned 1873 Silver Shilling, guess I wouldn't do well if buried about 140 years either, from Walkaringa (Victoria Mine)

SA.

Thanks to everyone again Dean has that coil on the way to me, next session I will temporarily marry the Coiltec Goldstalker 6" and get amongst the bricks with the new advised settings which is very effective.

Kindest Bob

 

[WalnLiz]

Don't know whether you're a "scraper" or not, but scraping that coil amongst those boulders will net you the most nuggets.... a sturdy rake would also be of great advantage, especially for a metre or two around any positive targets. ( the little suckers seem to enjoy each others company and rest close to each other). Hope your luck improves dramatically out there Bob.

 

[swinger]

Hi WainLiz,

They do group up, those 4 bits Steve pulled yesterday was in 10 minutes and within 3 metres, you can tell where we pull Gold, its where you can put a swag,
swept clean, those big banded Iron chunks are too heavy to rake, we move them individually and create mini walls. Gold can still be attached to banded Iron so your always hoping for a plate of it on an underside. I'm sure I will start to pick a few bits when the coil arrives, perhaps before with the Goldstalker, sick of leaving even those tiny bits behind for Steve, my Geo mate. Not sure I will get away with the gain at 10, very hot country, but can certainly crank the gain substantially.
Appreciate the help with the TDI. I really love the light weight of it.
Kindest Bob

 

[user 4485]

Thanks for the pics & updates Bob. Hopefully that coil doesn't take too long to reach you.
Good luck out there & keep us posted.

 

[Jaros]

Nice Nuggets Bob, more to come for sure.

 

[swinger]

Hi All,
From Camp site 3 Meekatharra, The story is not good! For myself or Steve. I have been running the new provided settings for which I am grateful, with the coiltech 6" Goldstalker mono coil, the Sadie I will not pick up until next Friday. My results after 37 hours detecting Zero, if you don't count the steel shotgun pellets. Lead fragments.
I did manage (********) to recalibrate my gold scales, and the decimal point is now where it should be, back at original factory settings. I made a set of lead specimens inside heatshink tubing. And can now with the above mentioned coil and provided settings detect on the surface just barely .5 gram, no problem 1 gram. Steve pulled 17 pieces totaling 24 grams. Then we had a local, an indigenous gentleman arrive with a brand new GPZ 7000. Was very personable and asked if he could follow myself and Steve along old scrapes, 50 metres behind me,-- Steve and then 50 metres behind steve---, the man Steve calls the ******* (don't think that's his real name). I detected nothing, Steve pulled one specimen of 2 grams, our local pulled 42 specimens totaling 43 grams. All along that old scrape. Steve is now as pissed as I feel with the TDI. Put to shame big time.
Worse the local told us the new detector was $10500 paid for by the local centrelink as a CDEP employment incentive/project, Eric still gets the dole regardless of success or failure.
Steve is fit to bust, he now knows what it feels like to walk over gold and not detect it. I admit I love love the goochie GPS tracking screen on that new thing the 7000, you can actually see where you have been and cover the ground methodically. But based on my Gold production, cannot afford a 7000. This ground is too hot for the TDI, manageable by the 5000, and loved by this new fangled wireless 7000.
My next nugget here will still be my first here. Went off alone this morning, took the missus with me to dig, Found and detected a gully in a hill slope with a Quartz Landslide from the Iron stone ridge, nothing, wife happy no digging, another wasted 4 hours. Steve wont let us lead him back to the gully until Eric Leaves the area????
Persevering
Kindest Bob

 

[Guest]

WTF? So is that where the tax dollar goes these days? That's ********!
https://www.dss.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/05_2012/cdep_program_guide.pdf

 

[swinger]

Well I can tell you, you had better be built like a brick outhouse if you purchase a 7000. Yes they work but, Might be manageable whilst in the shop for that 60 seconds. Need muscles like Popeye. It is heavy. Our indigenous friend, reckons this is too hard, he is going to town and sell the unit, just too hard. I'm not buying, he is right. All the suspension swinging, devises won't reduce the weight. Buggered if I know why they didn't wireless the unit from a hip mount or back pack. Guess that will be the 8000 for $15K. You need to really be a weights fanatic to swing the 7000 for more than 10 minutes. That was, my hands up, had enough, limit. I reackon Eric is going to have plenty of company, selling 7000's at the pub, turns out the locals are getting 50 x GPZ7000's, as the money has to be spent before 30 June or returned to the Feds. Last year they purchased Kubota Mowers, removed the cutting decks and are used as local transport 75 of them. Closing the gap????????????????????

In to town tomorrow to pick up that Sadie Coil, then off to the old township of Nannine in the shadows of the stockpiles of the St Barbara Caledonian mine, (currently closed).
Great detecting to all the fellow swingers out there, and hope the search for the two missing detectorists, 140 Km down the road turns out well.
Kindest Bob

 

[Redfin]

Well I can tell you, you had better be built like a brick outhouse if you purchase a 7000. Yes they work but, Might be manageable whilst in the shop for that 60 seconds. Need muscles like Popeye. It is heavy. Our indigenous friend, reckons this is too hard, he is going to town and sell the unit, just too hard. I'm not buying, he is right. All the suspension swinging, devises won't reduce the weight.

You my friend are doing something very wrong.
Properly adjusted bungee to a properly adjusted Camelback, using the swing stick, my 7000 is very nearly weightless.

 

[Metamorphic]

Agreed Redfin......well the borrowed one i use anyway, is no drama when correctly setup!

Carrying all that gold around in the backpack is the biggest weight problem.

 

[PabloP]

Well I can tell you, you had better be built like a brick outhouse if you purchase a 7000. Yes they work but, Might be manageable whilst in the shop for that 60 seconds. Need muscles like Popeye. It is heavy. Our indigenous friend, reckons this is too hard, he is going to town and sell the unit, just too hard. I'm not buying, he is right. All the suspension swinging, devises won't reduce the weight.

You my friend are doing something very wrong.
Properly adjusted bungee to a properly adjusted Camelback, using the swing stick, my 7000 is very nearly weightless.

Agreed also Redfin, I am an old bloke, with a shoulder injury that I am getting over, and I found that when the harness and bungee are properly adjusted, it worked fine for me. Spent two days over Easter without any such concerns. For me the only "issue" versus using the SDC was the 14" coil was a bit harder to manipulate in and around bushes and the like.

So far for me it has been a great bit of gear.

Rob.

 

[WalnLiz]

Agree with you there Meta...That gold in the backpack always cuts off the circulation to the shoulders causing pins and needles, resulting in lapses in concentration detrimental to hearing those softer targets... :/

 

[swinger]

Hi Swingers,
I"ve worked your top soils over clay bases, Dunnolly to Talbot. Your not swinging a detector all day over bricks 50cm high. Every swing.
If you want cheap GPZ 7000's the locals are selling them for $5K at the local pub, every night. If you paid $10.5 K your a loser. The local Aboriginal association is bought 50 units. If they don't spend their budget by 30th June they have to return the money to the Feds. Last year they bought 72 Kubota Ride on mowers, removed the cutting decks and locals now have transport???? We wondered where the Mowers kept coming from?
If you want a 7000 look at the Meekatharra Pub, for less than Half Price, units still in the box. No I cannot handle the weight with my spinal fusion. Not this country.
But oh yes they work. I pulled .9 grams from country the 5000 didn't blip in less than 8 minutes. Then offload the blxxxy thing.
Kindest Bob

 

[Redfin]

Hi Swingers,
I"ve worked your top soils over clay bases, Dunnolly to Talbot. Your not swinging a detector all day over bricks 50cm high. Every swing.
I cannot handle the weight with my spinal fusion. Not this country.
Kindest Bob

It doesn't matter how high you swing and over what, in any country. Properly adjusted it is nearly weightless.
Sorry to hear about your spinal fusion, my fusion was rather successful.

 

[Metamorphic]

If you paid $10.5 K your a loser. The local Aboriginal association is bought 50 units.

No mate, they are 10.7k here in Vic thanks, so your facts are shot to start with.

And good on the CDEP associations over there for getting the boys into our great hobby!