WA Trip - 7 days in the outback over Easter to Anzac w/e

[jon_m]

"...Blue or Pending" tenements. This is open for anyone to visit, if on Crown land with no native titles,...

Regards using a Miners Right and not applying for a 40e; GeoVIEW displays 4 types of Native Title ('Claims', 'Determined Areas', 'Federal Court', 'Land Use Agreement Areas'). But also under Special Category Lands there is 'Aboriginal Heritage Site' amongst other things. Do you know if any one of these prohibit detecting, or is it just the 'Determined Areas'?

If all four prohibit detecting with just a Miners Right then there's not so much space(?) ...

Native Title Determined Areas : Cover all areas around Peak Hill and north, Wiluna and north and east thereof.

Native Title Claims : Cover all areas just south of Peak Hill through Meekatharra, Cue, Mt Magnet and Paynes Find. All areas south of Sandstone, And all around Leinster as well as many north thereof.

Native Title (Federal Court): A number of areas mostly (a#)'Lodged/Filed' or (#b)'Unregistered'.
a# Covers all areas Coolgardie, Kalgoorlie, BroadArrow to below Menzies.
b# Covers all areas from MtMagnet to Paynes Find and some areas NE of Laverton

Indigenous Land Use Agreement Area : Cover much ot the areas east of Cue, Meekatharra. Whole of Warburton

... with no native titles, or land holder ...

Have you been able to derive a broad view "land holders" from GeoVIEW or have you had to check through TenGraph (more or less on a tenement by tenement basis)?

 

[Westaus]

Good point jon_m one that we had not thoroughly investigated. The rule we use is if there is a need from the Title holders for an entry cost or to travel through pass etc... At this point in our travels we have not gone into these more remote areas. Bit like Kakadu and so on.

We have not passed any signs advising that we cannot enter due to Native Title holder claim. That is not to say they are not out there, we just have not seen them. I am sure we will though. That could be a another thread for reference on areas. People who have had to do so to travel through and what passes were required.

 

[gcause]

Just brilliant photos westaus, did you use the original camera on the phantom or did you buy the gimbal for the gopro hero3 camera as well? As you can tell I have been looking at these for a while but at $1000+ I will have to save for it.

 

[jon_m]

Thanks Westaus. Preparing for a trip as you could guess. And just trying to get a grip on the right turf to be on. Taking the view that there is just so much of it, editing down to just a few spots is daunting considering not wanting to waste time and travel, rules, regulations, trash areas, pointless areas, and sheer inexperience of the whole region.

But editing before travel is the name of the game no doubt.

You have some terrific photos, and a creative input behind them. Hope its fruitful trip for you.

 

[TenOunce Tone]

Well Westaus. That is one great write up. The photos take you there into the red dust of the WA fields. Pity you did not get more gold. Your prep seems to be immaculate.

Good luck on the return visits

Cheers Tone

 

[Golddiggergirls]

Thank you for taking the time Westaus, to share such great information and wonderful pics with us...!



Cheers,
Golddiggergirl Bec.

 

[Westaus]

Just brilliant photos westaus, did you use the original camera on the phantom or did you buy the gimbal for the gopro hero3 camera as well? As you can tell I have been looking at these for a while but at $1000+ I will have to save for it.

I used the DJI Phantom Vision with the white camera. They have just released a new one with a Black camera and better Gimbal on it. This would be my choice if buying now, however I picked mine up second hand real cheap nearly half price and the video in HD is pretty darn good. Photos are good with the ability to zoom and also take RAW which I shoot in my other camera. If you have a Go Pro already then look at some of the other kit ones and build up. Good luck they are lots of fun. This one in particular is so easy, if we had been flying a plane we would have crashed several times no doubt.

Thanks Westaus. Preparing for a trip as you could guess. And just trying to get a grip on the right turf to be on. Taking the view that there is just so much of it, editing down to just a few spots is daunting considering not wanting to waste time and travel, rules, regulations, trash areas, pointless areas, and sheer inexperience of the whole region.

But editing before travel is the name of the game no doubt.

You have some terrific photos, and a creative input behind them. Hope its fruitful trip for you.

Making the right choice where to go is very daunting, the main thing to look for is where are the mines. They still find Gold, or is it old mines. Green Tenements in Gold bearing country nearly always have good ground on them from what we have seen. So try and find areas near them or do the forms required.

It is a big area and you can spend a LOT of time driving, which also adds to costs and potential for damage to tyres and so on. I would look for an area within reach and target that area. Perhaps within a 100k radius. Best of luck.

Thank you for taking the time Westaus, to share such great information and wonderful pics with us...!



Cheers,
Golddiggergirl Bec.

Thanks GDG Bec appreciate the comments and I also must say you gals do a great job with your vids also. You seem to find a lot more than we do but hey all for fun isn't it. Best of luck also and may see you out there one day.

Westaus

 

[jon_m]

Thanks for your advice Westaus - and wondering if you might help on another question, please?

Trying to check which roads are are sealed in the vicinity; north from Kalgoorlie then from Laverton west to Mt Magnet. Getting conflicting reports eg
https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/Abo...gions/MidWest/Pages/MidWest.aspx#.U261inZdQyp

On two regional map pdfs (MidWest & Goldfields-Esperance) roads in and out of Sandstone are shown as sealed on one map and unseadled on the other;

 

[geof_junk]

For the last 10 years you can travel on sealed roads from Laverton via Leonora , Leinster and Sandstone to Mt Magnet

 

[jon_m]

Thanks goof_junk.

How can one tell which roads off the main highway(s) are sealed, if any (considering the WA Mainroads Dept maps may not be accurate or up to date)?

 

[Westaus]

jon m I think were you are getting a little confused with the edge of the map series as this is in a lighter shade. Most of the key highway roads are bitumen. They other smaller ones are in general good condition, but some heavy rain would make it another story. They are well sign posted before you enter onto them. So you should have some idea beforehand. Also wait a while and see anyone come through and ask what the conditions are like before proceeding, may have to wait a while though The look of their car/truck should give you an idea as well.

With a 4wd you will be ok in most cases, a normal car is fine if no rain and the corrugations aren't too bad. Except for some side tracks and hills that were pure ironstone sheets (ripped tyres) a car would have gone to all the places we have been. May have taken a bit of bottom out here and there, and perhaps shaken a few bits loose but doable.

Get a good WA tracks book as well, you should always have a good back up anyway, major roads are all marked and you can set your trip for fuel etc... Paid $1.77lt was the highest at Paynes Find FYI.

 

[jon_m]

Thanks Westaus, appreciate your info, and sounds as though roads won't be too much an issue. Have been keen to whittle down the potential tenements to those not too far off roads that are generally accessible.

Guess I didn't explain myself very well. When I said "roads in and out of Sandstone" I was referring to those other than the highways, which you might note are shown as sealed on one map, unsealed on the other.

Are you still on the trip? Hope it is or has been successful and your scales too small.

 

[Mr Boring]

The roads have dried out anyhow, People are poaching everywhere without reference to where they actually are prospecting, escorted 4 people off my mining properties since Friday last week. Am happy to give permission, but not happy when I find you "on site" without permission. I have claim over 6000HA of prime gold country.(darlex pty ltd) Please contact me first guys

 

[jon_m]

Would be fantastic to have permission. If I have it correct your claim is not 'exploration' (and therefor not available via 40e ?) so, without experience, does this mean written consent is the way permission needs to be given?

 

[Mr Boring]

Exploration licences are usually located in areas lacking in the precious metal, but not always. There are loads of people taking advantage of the 40e, but not the best gold areas. All of our blocks are PLs and MLs and are mining investment blocks. Alluvial gold is not a major factor with our blocks (and 80% of other blocks) although I do request people inform us of any alluvial finds after they are finished which will be logged into our database for potential future drilling targets and/or Geochemical programs.

 

[Mr Boring]

For the last 10 years you can travel on sealed roads from Laverton via Leonora , Leinster and Sandstone to Mt Magnet

For the last 30 years the road has been sealed from Leonora to Laverton. the only recent addition is Agnew to Sandstone. I just wish to clarify the mis-information given by others

 

[beno86]

Hey MrBoring.

Id be interested in coming up your way if ok for a prospect and poke around , maybe we can talk someday soon?

I also have a couple of .22's so if you need a hand with cats/rabbits then can assist with that