Thanks goldiggerart Nah its only a one page doco...mate..it just hates the ***** out of me ...Ken!....is that you chiming in with a suggestion of a bigger hammer?...hehe..I feel like pack'in a bloody 90lb jackhammer mate! ] oohh to hell with it... 8.( I'm too old for all this ] I'm gonna sit here and try and memorise more of the 705 Manual ] ] ..I showed it where it lives today...under my bed....it keeps pining for me..poor little bugger!...just have to be firm till daylight and I'll let him out for a little ground balance...and a mode change...hehe! :Y: see yers at the diggins ..I'm going to bed..