Prospectors extorted

[HippyProspecting]

What are peoples view on this artical?

Im not from WA or a derector, so i dont see a big problem, but im sure some folks here would no more about it than I

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-...by-major-pastoral-company/9547962?pfmredir=sm

 

[Adventure.b4 dementia]

Hard to like but thanks for posting Hp.

Once again a corporate giants swinging at the small man . :N:

David

 

[kemjak57]

Id like to say what Im thinking but this is a family forum.

 

[madtuna]

Without seeing the document I could only speculate.
While Id baulk at the administration fee as for being asked to take out your own insurance, well youd be silly not to.

If the pastoralists stock dies because of something youve done, too right you should foot the bill!

I work with the pastoralist, mining companies, small leaseholders as well as prospectors and being a prospector myself I see four sides to the one coin.
Sometimes that puts me in a rather ****** position trying to do a juggling act and keep everything running smoothly and amicable for all parties.

Your have the pastoral act, the mining act, the native title act and any number of other acts all covering the same patch of dirt and often they contradict each other and all can be open to interpretation differently depending on whos reading it.

Also I really really hate saying this but prospectors are their own worst enemy, and if I was to put a number on it, from what I witness out here I would say 80% + do the wrong thing. Is it any wonder mining companies and pastoralist are jacking up and looking at avenues to make it harder.

It is so easy to do the right thing unfortunately most dont.

Saying all that, show me another state where anyone for minimal dollars and trouble can peg their own lease and have such a rewarding lifestyle.

 

[HippyProspecting]

Nicely put madtuna :Y:

 

[kemjak57]

You have a serious juggling act there MT. I totally agree with the fact that detectorists are their own worst enemy. I watched a YouTube video the other night where a bloke had a lot of holes that were a decent size, all unfilled. He was finding good gold but the comments were in the order of Fill your holes you make everyone look bad. One word RESPECT it goes a long way

 

[Swinging & digging]

100% agree with you kemjak57, i think the worst thing about this hobby is the fact that many go about it the wrong way, by not filling in holes etc.
Seems they have no long term plans for the hobbies survival.

Watching many U tube videos and you think???? Grrrrr, not setting a good example. :N:

 

[hAyyoUinAU]

All states should have similar rules, especially when it comes to opening up more areas.
Lift the burden and draw, away from the states that support prospecting.

Queensland needs to get off its butt in that regards. But they love selling land to foreign owned companies.

Maybe then states like Victoria wouldn't get an influx from people travelling there hoping to find gold or just to enjoy the more relaxed laws.
And I would bet any mother the tourists would leave more trash than the locals. Well that's a "edumacated" guess.

I have often thought it would be nice to go to the GT, but then I think, that's their home, and I bet they get sick of everyone heading there and disrespecting the rules.
Even though I wouldn't do that, I would still be looked at as another guy coming interstate to dig up there land.
And I don't blame them.

I blame the Government, we should have the same laws and rules in all our states. Aren't we all mates after all. Bulls$@t or not!

And well said Madtuna, they definitely don't.

 

[Swinging & digging]

The same laws in all states would result in the laws been based on the Most restrictive state.
The recent ban on high banking in NSW would be implemented in Victoria for example.

 

[hAyyoUinAU]

The same laws in all states would result in the laws been based on the Most restrictive state.
The recent ban on high banking in NSW would be implemented in Victoria for example.

Yeah...that would probably be right.

 

[user 7268]

If just the not filling holes was the major issue then even though in no way is this good ............... very minor in comparison to many other issues. The blatant disregard for another persons property is the major issue I see. Clermont a few seasons back the GPA's were shut down as some one left a gate open, and mustered cattle were allowed to get free. No biggy some may say ? I bet if you had just paid $300 an hour plus fuel for some aerial mustering plus the men on the grounds wages also you would be concerned ? How many know how much each head of cattle is worth ? Then a cow in calf ? Many just aren't aware and many others just don't care, and no amount of politics or rules will save you from this factor. As has been said, in general the prospector is his own worst enemy and as a result more and more gates are being closed.
Have seen many sets of shiny redbacks leaving prints in the dirt as they head back to their vehicles With not a clue that their attitude straight up is what earned them the " Sorry mate closed for detecting at the moment" response. Old mate with a wink and a wry smile had picked em the minute they got out the car
Educate yourself and then educate others that you see that obviously aren't I say. :Y:

 

[hAyyoUinAU]

If only people followed the simple rule......Leave it as you found it. (minus the GOLD)

Then there would be no problems.