Ditto BumbleB, and thankyou they're my thoughts almost to the letter ... but i deleted my words and re-wrote a lighter response in the end but it is human nature to push into the unknown - but restricted only for hardy souls 
old mine is now mapped and recorded :)
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madtuna
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Each to their own, and no I did no call him a jerk. I said I hope the gov dosent do a knee jerk reaction. I think I also complimented him on his photos.
I'll clarify my concerns so hopefully you understand better where I'm coming from.
Just the last few days in the news... Prospector lost in outback. Yep, just like HTY doing a risky thing but perfectly legal, knee jerk reaction... Police pushing to make EPIRB mandatory for prospectors.
Imagine HTY or someone else dies in a mine... Knee jerk reaction? Unsafe ones in the area, let's shut the area down.
Dept of Mines, police, gold squad etc all monitor the forums, they told us this back in January. Hence why a few other forums now have no discussion on dredging and anything that could affect our hobby adversely.
Now, apart from all that, HTY can do what ever he pleases, and good luck to him, I support that. BUT, my conscience can not let me sit idly by without commenting on what a deadly game of Russian roulette he is playing.
Someone mentioned skydiving, big difference. I personally have 210 jumps up, it took training and the correct up to date safety equipment, sadly neither of which HTY by his own admission has.
HTY just be safe.
Cheers,
Steve
I'll clarify my concerns so hopefully you understand better where I'm coming from.
Just the last few days in the news... Prospector lost in outback. Yep, just like HTY doing a risky thing but perfectly legal, knee jerk reaction... Police pushing to make EPIRB mandatory for prospectors.
Imagine HTY or someone else dies in a mine... Knee jerk reaction? Unsafe ones in the area, let's shut the area down.
Dept of Mines, police, gold squad etc all monitor the forums, they told us this back in January. Hence why a few other forums now have no discussion on dredging and anything that could affect our hobby adversely.
Now, apart from all that, HTY can do what ever he pleases, and good luck to him, I support that. BUT, my conscience can not let me sit idly by without commenting on what a deadly game of Russian roulette he is playing.
Someone mentioned skydiving, big difference. I personally have 210 jumps up, it took training and the correct up to date safety equipment, sadly neither of which HTY by his own admission has.
HTY just be safe.
Cheers,
Steve
loamer said:
Loamer ........ that picture needs to be in the " Have you got an awesome picture" catagory
its absolutely mindblowing the multitude of tunnels in that ants nest
thanks for posting and enlightening me about what can actually be underneath our feet 8)
thanks for all the reply's sorry madtuna for a miss under standing but its like all hobby's it can be dangerous and deadly but I suppose if your digging away with your pick and hit your foot instead and break it that's just as bad as falling down a old shaft but the only difference is you did it to your self lol :lol:
madtuna
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No probs mate and I'm sorry if what I posted offends you but I only posted it out of concern as I know of two people who died doing what you do and don't particularly want to know a third.
Just a bit of info for you also, one of the fellows on another forum who told you basically the same thing is one of australasias most highly qualified and experienced cavers responsible for mapping and safety checks and setting up cave systems for tourism throughout Asia and Australia.
Cheers,
Steve
Just a bit of info for you also, one of the fellows on another forum who told you basically the same thing is one of australasias most highly qualified and experienced cavers responsible for mapping and safety checks and setting up cave systems for tourism throughout Asia and Australia.
Cheers,
Steve
hum ok was it ark ?
madtuna
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Nah mate another bloke who works for NPWS, he's in charge of their cave program and manages Jenolan caves, we'll he did, not sure if he still does.
Ark whines about everything, I only whine about a couple of things occasionally lol
Ark whines about everything, I only whine about a couple of things occasionally lol
madtuna said:
ok m8
Im glad to see that everyone cares, that is the main point and whilst this could have got out of hand, sanity prevails this is one of the better posts on the forum very detailed and informative and well thought out
Everyone should be careful in our hobby as at the moment it is self regulated to some extent and it would be good to keep it that way
Everyone should be careful in our hobby as at the moment it is self regulated to some extent and it would be good to keep it that way
yeah this one worked from 1870s to early 1930s
Amazing photos HTY thanks for sharing. Those old blokes were tenacious to say the least. Stay safe mate
mad Mike
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Great pics thanks for shareing
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