depends on the steel mackka
you get
air hardening steel
water hardening steel
oil hardening steels
depends on what the steel is used for
people get the hardening and tempers process back to front mackka
harden then temper
when it is hardened the steel can be quite brittle that is why you temper it
you don't want to forge a nice cold chisel and first hit with the hammer and it explodes into thousands of pieces and shreds the wrist mackka not good mate
that's why you temper it to a certain hardness
different colours define how hard you want the steel to be mackka
that's why you have to be very carefull when using a angle grinder to sharpen the pick
if it is to hot to touch you have more than likely already started to change the temper
here is a little chart mackka
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dull red to bordering on bright red are about the scope for hardening most steels (heated till it is non magnetic what they call critical temperature)
from light straw to dark grey are the common temper colours
cheers mate hope that cleared the muddy waters for you mate
Still have and use a centre punch I machined, hardened and tempered back in the 60's.
We heated the tools to red and dunked them in oil. Emery clothed the tip back to shiny then heated with oxy torch and watch the dark blue colour run down to the tip then quench again and leave to cool.