NEED YOUR SUPPORT! - STOP WA MINERS FROM DESTROYING VIC BUSHLAND

[misscadillac1964]

Hey guys!!
WE NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE!!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/361247767339879/
A Perth-based mining company has applied for an exploration license for a large area which covers the Mt Camel rang from north of Colbinabbin to south of Lady's Pass.

According to Victorian legislation, you might own the farmland but you dont own the minerals (including the gold and silver) that lie below your paddocks!

The minerals belong to the crown and the right to search, prospect or mine for them can be given away to anyone who applies. In this case IRON MOUNTAIN MINING LTD are looking to exploit the local area.

If you are opposed to the granting of this exploration license, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED in order to object, but you must be quick.

PLEASE SUPPORT YOUR VICTORIAN BUSH!
BE A PART OF OUR PETITION!
PLEASE POST YOUR NAME AND LOCATION so we can give them one hell of a bugger off!!

 

[Diggerdude]

Since when is this prospecting forum anti mining? Most of Victoria is covered in ELs what is so wrong about this one? As you can see from the map supplied it is surrounded by other ELs, and they haven't wrecked the farms.
This post looks like it belongs on the green peace forum.

DD

 

[misscadillac1964]

I'm not speaking on behalf nor do i represent the forum Digger - I'm trying to help the local residents who do not want this happening.

 

[Diggerdude]

Most local residents are anti prospecting and fossicking also, they just want the land for themselves. A lot of people fought very hard for our current miners right conditions, and I don't agree with any interest groups trying to undermine the meager rights we have.

DD

 

[Rodstar]

it is an interesting conversation to have... the pros and cons of corporate mining.
Very recently I visited the age old town of Ravenswood, once the largest City/Town in QLD apparently.. but now has only 100 residents, all over this town are hundreds of relics from the old days, also in this town is Carpenteria Gold, with two open cut mines and a lease on all of this historical town.

So i could see both worlds the old and the new. one thing we said when we visited the viewing platform and looked down at the open cut mine was I bet THEY dont fill in their HOLES!!!

Behind a corporation are people, they have to eat and live too. This mining corp has brought people back into the town and created jobs but I dont like what they are doing to the bush. But its a very interesting discussion to be had.

Rod

 

[Guest]

I'm not opposed to companies carrying out exploration per say & although I am not up to date with Victorian Legislation would assume that there are strict conditions including remediating any exploration areas + compensating landholders for access to carry out exploration activities.
Very few areas under exploration actually make it to the mining stage but if this area did & is sensitive, had heritage value or landholder's were being pushed off their land then I would oppose it at that stage. EDIT: in saying that miner's these days plan around these areas now & use mining methods that offer the least impact to the area.
The only mining legislation that really gets up my nose, for NSW anyway, is the requirement of fossicker's to get EL holder's permission to carry out any fossicking in their EL area. Most don't respond to requests & those that do usually respond negatively. Its a ridiculous rule & that would be my only opposition (if the law is the same in Victoria) & even then I would only request that fossicker's still be allowed to carry out recreational fossicking in the EL area as part of the mining company exploration conditions. EDIT: but not within a specified distance from active exploration activities.

 

[misscadillac1964]

Apologies guys didn't want to start any great debate - pro's cons etc.
I'm not anti-mining anti-fossicking etc by all means.

I'm anti - looking out my window potentially having to look at it
Its all privately owned residential land that they're looking at, all of which is surrounded with a tonne of existing mines and an abundance of other areas they can be concentrating on instead.

 

[HeadsUp]

Is it open cut or underground shafts ?

underground may not disrupt residential / farm properties unless its perceived to deflate residential property values , this has happened in the past especially with coal mines where the land is continually subsiding and homes crack.

thats a factor to evaluate

if it was underground coal i would oppose it in my area.

If it was going to be run by an overseas corporation that doesnt pay tax in australia because they slip the profits through shelf companies in tax havens like some of them do then i would be jumping on their heads with a right hook right on the computer mouse.

If its a local individual or small local company i might entertain the prospect of having a chat with them

If i was a brazillionaire i might take out an EL on land that was environmentally sensitive just with the intention of blocking mining companies from doing it for real.

Daintree , Great Barrier Reef etc . lol

but i am not a brazillionaire , nor am i Steve Irwin ( bless him )

 

[Guest]

Yeah we need a little more info, How are they destroying the bush, how much are they going to destroy, How many jobs are the locals going to get, whats the impact on the local economy, What do they do when the mining is over, What does the landholders stand to earn in compensation, how many are pro or anti etc Before we can chose a side. What if 95% of the locals are happy about it? Times are tough in the bush, the jobs could be handy.

 

[Ben78]

I'm not anti-mining anti-fossicking etc by all means.

I'm anti - looking out my window potentially having to look at it

Ahhh your classic 'NIMBY' Not In My BackYard

Mining built Australia
Most EL's don't result in any mining
Mining is extremely highly governed and legislated to protect against environmental impact.

If you don't like it perhaps you should move to 'Melbs', I hear Eltham loves a good environmentalist

 

[HeadsUp]

not everything is well legislated or governed

if it was there would not be toxic chemicals being pumped into my grandchildrens groundwater in the name of fracking

all is good while we can have discussions here without anyone having rocks thrown at them

 

[TenOunce Tone]

Talk to the Queensland farmers who have no say in the gas drilling that just happens.. The govt will allow it to happen if there is money in it for them.

You can take that to the bank!

Cheers, Tone

 

[Palmer Digger]

I know, I know .. You're going to hate me for this Miss Caddy, ........ but,

 

[Ben78]

if it was there would not be toxic chemicals being pumped into my grandchildrens groundwater in the name of fracking

Is that *actually* happening? Got any peer reviewed articles or reports to back it up?

 

[loamer]

Can we please call this a nil all draw and move on. Please.

 

[calala]

Ben78, these problems are reported in our daily news on a regular basis, he says she says. Can you prove it doesn't happen?

 

[Nugget]

Can we please call this a nil all draw and move on. Please.

Good idea.. The option is there for anyone wishing to support the cause, enough said.

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