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def mica mate the way you explained it being only flakes was a dead giveaway, if you tap the pan quite hard and short it will often float about gold will move t the top of the pan.

keep up the enthusiasm though mate we learn on the job:)
 
Bugger! oh well, better luck next time!
are Mica and gold usually found in the same areas? i'm just wondering if i should keep the bucket load of dirt i brought home or throw it on the garden haha
 
Depends where you got it, a bucket of gravel from one shovel depth in a loosely drifted gravel bar would have hardly a spec if any.
But a bucketfull of hard packed old wash or grey clay dug from a hidden crevice would be very worthwhile panning.

If it's the first, throw some 1/4 match head size specs of lead in the bucket. Count how many you put it, hey even paint them with your wifes pink nailpolish and see if you can retrieve them all.

Watch how walnliz pan, try to keep the pan dead level- the easiest way is to let it 'boat' ontop of the water as you wash it steadily side to side. (Water is always level, unless waterfall 8) )
Reeko
 
Spud said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lol
i spent like 6 hours picking it out with tweezers, devastated lol
ill do the crush test when i get home, omg i'am guttered hahaha :(

i was down on the Goodradigbee River if that helps at all?
SSSSPPPPEEEWWWWNNN.
Ive been reading some interesting locations on the Goodradigbee mostly in the KNP though
 
Thanks Reeko. i just went down to the river off a sand bank and tried to lift big rocks that were in the water and then scrape around them ( not very deep at all)
i only chose the spot i did because it was the only river paddock that didn't have cattle in it.

no need to look far for the nail polish, i'm the wife and pink is my favourite colour!
sounds like it all comes down to practice, practice, practice.

excuse my ignorance Paydirt but what is KNP?
 
Sorry Spud, pictured you as a spud carrol looking bloke!
Is that creek/river usually flowing year round? Look for crevices that may be on the flood level and dig to the bottom, usually the better flakes of gold will be on the bottom.
Goodluck
 
I did the same thing when I started out except I found big clumps of Mica in our garden...... super excited, started to pan then realised it did not seperate, floated, swirled, did just about everything gold should not. Wal took me out to find my first gold, we ran one of his WalBanks at Oallen ford for an afternoon and did rather well, found a few grams. I still sleep with it under my pillow =) Once you see gold, look at its characteristics and how it behaves you will never be fooled again.

KNP, is it Kosciusko National Park?
 
Spud put it down to a learning experience but don't ever despair about finding fools gold because where there is pyrite there is usually gold and they are often mixed together. Pan your extra buckets of dirt it will be good practice and you never know you may find yourself a nugget.

Pyrites will generally float on the surface of the water in the pan and will break up in your fingers.

Gold by the way can float its all about the surface tension of the water and the size of the flakes. Its not likely to float because it is 19x heavier than water but it can if the conditions are right. You should search youtube for some videos on Gold Panning techniques. I know one of the ones by Garrett on their Super Sluice pans explains how gold can float and how when floating it can group together.

To stop it floating you add a drop of Finish Dish washing liquid the blue stuff (Jet Dry as the Americans call it) to your pan, this breaks the surface tension of the water allows the gold to drop easily. It only takes a drop so a bottle will last a long time. I also add a drop to my highbanker water when I am recirculating the water for it out of a large plastic container.

Also have you seasoned your gold pan?

Seasoning the gold pan makes the water glide off rather than bead which will happen with a new plastic pan. That beading doesn't help the surface tension of the water issue. To season the pan get some sandpaper or a kitchen scourer and rub the inside of the bottom of the gold pan, this scratches up the surface a bit and allows the water to glide off. There is a youtube video on this also. You can also do this out in the field with a handful of gravel in the pan and just rub it against the bottom of the pan.

The old timers used tin pans and they would season them by throwing them on the coals of a fire and "Blueing the Pan" as it was known because the tin would turn a bluish colour on the inside. They would then sand down a few specific areas on the pan, each prospector had his own method of doing this and it was a closely guarded secret.

Big thing to remember about gold panning is its not the riffles that will get your gold.

The old timers tin pans didn't have riffles in them they were added much later as a precaution and they only added a single small indent ring to theirs near the top of the tin pan around its circumference. The area you need to worry about and keep your eyes on when panning is the inside lip a the very bottom front of the gold pan, its the thing that will catch your gold. It doesnt matter how fancy the design of the gold pan, they all have that in common.

The only exception to this rule are the traditional pans of other countries such as the more common Batea gold pan used in South America its shaped like a bowl with only a very slight angle to it. It uses a different but efficient panning technique all its own. Other traditional pans include the conical Dulang of South-East Asia, Bucket of Kyrgyzstan, the Ninja bowl of Mongolia, the Lotok of Russia and the Rubber mat of Mongolia.

Hope this helps :D
 
Seasoning with sandpaper? I'd like to hear who does this, seems like a great way to screw a pan if not done correctly. A bit of quartz crush and a few days in weather for mine.
 
Another trick to use when separating the black sand is to:

a) get yourself some rare earth magnets (jaycar sells them) and put these into a small plastic container like an old film canister or pill bottle.

b) get yourself some clear self sealing plastic sandwich bags from the supermarket and place the plastic container with the magnets inside it into the sandwich bag.

c) now run the plastic bag over the gold pan and the black sand that is magnetic will stick to it. It wont get all of it but it should get a good portion of it.

d) Run it up and down the pan a few times to collect as much of the black sand as possible.

e) Once you have the black sand on the sandwich bag open it up and turn it inside out, you now have a sandwich bag full of black sand.

f) Take the plastic bottle away from the sandwich bag base and put it into another empty sandwich bag.

g) Seal up the sandwich bag full of black sand and keep it for later processing as there may still be fine gold attached to the black sand.

h) Now repeat the process with the new sandwich bag until you have got most of the black sand out of the gold pan and are left with mostly clean gold.

Hope this helps :D
 
Seasoning a pan is also not a one off excercise as many people think, you should do this regularly.

The reason you do it the first time is that during the injection molding process the manufacturer has to use oil or some other lubricant to help free the newly molded gold pan from the mold. This will leave a coating of oil on the surface and slightly impregnated into your new gold pan. Having any oils in your gold pan can cause you to lose much of your fine gold.

The reason you do it after this is that you naturally have oil on your skin and it gets on the pan when you handle it. Over time this can build up. So every so many months its good to season your pan again.

Hope this helps. :D
 
Reeks said:
Sorry Spud, pictured you as a spud carrol looking bloke!
Is that creek/river usually flowing year round? Look for crevices that may be on the flood level and dig to the bottom, usually the better flakes of gold will be on the bottom.
Goodluck

buwahaha all good, spud is my dogs name lol
thank you all so much! what awesome info
Gcause - so much info thank you i will have a go tonight.i had not seasoned my pan so i will get on that :)
 

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