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A good read here.....

I believe it is being applied now.
Poorly I might add from a personal perspective.

Document title - Australian Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza updated August 2019

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet...E2DDCCA257D47001B9948/$File/w-AHMPPI-2019.PDF

a bigger list to cruise...

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ohp-ahmppi.htm

How many cases in Australia ?? go down this page to find out, save the link it is updated.

https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert#current-status
 
I was hit with a dose of Corona virus back in 1970 and I survived, my strain came out of Japan

A few hot sweats and I turned a page, it was all over quickly and a month later I had something else to occupy my mind
 
.... here is a photo :heart: :inlove: :heart:

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Lets not loose site of the fact that all these damm statistics represent real people not some theory or someone's thoughts.
People are dying, and we're inline.
Jim
 
reynard said:
Lets not loose site of the fact that all these damm statistics represent real people not some theory or someone's thoughts.
People are dying, and we're inline.
Jim
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Jim we are all inline for dying, worrying yourself sick about this virus and the next one you'll die sooner.?
 
How about some perspective.

From the World Health Organisation web site. (3 years out of date though)

We should be more concerned with eating fatty foods, smoking and drinking, those are the real threats.

Over 9 million deaths for heart disease. Nearly 2 million die in road related accidents. Nearly 3 million from the current strains of the flu.

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Stats are all great.

What happens over a year world wide let alone one country.
But not over a few months to SO many people...

Real life is difficult!

I just spoke to a mate that was in the middle of it in Dec and Jan in Hong Kong.

He is VERY happy to be back and DID get a respiratory infection with temp but he was not tested on return because he fell outside the 'guidelines'
at the time, he was not in a good way, but better now.
His whole family have been sick with the same thing and his young son was very ill and still recovering now 8 weeks later.

He did go to see his doctor and his doctor refused to swab him and refused to do blood tests - go figure ?? "because he fell outside the 'guidelines"

There is NO WAY he would return to Hong Kong now, by his own words, the family contacts are shitting themselves, and on top of it suffering from being locked down.
These people have many millions of dollars, servant staff and shitting themselves as the economy is also collapsing.

Lucky they were not worse off.

I reckon the bug is well and truly here.

:/

Another friend got back from Singapore yesterday AM and he walked straight in to Australia, but wants to go to his doctor because he is not so well,
waited for his child outside the classroom yesterday. 400 kids in that building a lot passing him.
We go camping all the time, and I have to avoid him for 3 weeks, I'm not happy about that but will do it, he is a stubborn man in his '70's
:/
:N:
 
Wally69 said:
I was hit with a dose of Corona virus back in 1970 and I survived, my strain came out of Japan

A few hot sweats and I turned a page, it was all over quickly and a month later I had something else to occupy my mind
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You do realise though that the common cold is from the Corona virus family. This one is different. Its not just a cold bro.
 
Retirement Stone said:
How about some perspective.

From the World Health Organisation web site. (3 years out of date though)

We should be more concerned with eating fatty foods, smoking and drinking, those are the real threats.

Over 9 million deaths for heart disease. Nearly 2 million die in road related accidents. Nearly 3 million from the current strains of the flu.

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/img/member-images/1817/1582862269_death_table.jpg
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However heart disease and strokes are always there and tend to only occur in old age, so this would be additional to that in significant part (you have to die of something guys). And the issue is not just the number of deaths, but people off work for many months, crashing the world economy and affecting supplies and manufacturing (inmcluding food supply lines).
I was listening to a health expert who said this is very contagious and could affect half the world's population (as has occurred in the past). If the death rate is 2% (conservative), half the world's population is 3.9 billion, and 2% of that is 78 million deaths, 500,000 in Australia. That is 50% more than the annual world death rate from all causes without the virus (if 10% it would be 250% more, around 400 million deaths, 2.5 million in Australia). Present death rates (3.3%) suggest that it might be greater than 50% more at the least.

Obviously I don't have a clue if they are correct, and I have no wish to be alarmist, but it is fairly obvious why it is causing concern (imagine the logistics of treating that many people in Australia)- it can't just be shrugged off.
 
This far more serious than most think it is.
Countries don't deliberately sabotage their own economies because of a flu.
 
Wally69 said:
I was hit with a dose of Corona virus back in 1970 and I survived, my strain came out of Japan

A few hot sweats and I turned a page, it was all over quickly and a month later I had something else to occupy my mind
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When I went to Hong Kong in 2000 all the taxis were old Coronas. :lol:
 
Retirement Stone said:
How about some perspective.

From the World Health Organisation web site. (3 years out of date though)

We should be more concerned with eating fatty foods, smoking and drinking, those are the real threats.

Over 9 million deaths for heart disease. Nearly 2 million die in road related accidents. Nearly 3 million from the current strains of the flu.

https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/img/member-images/1817/1582862269_death_table.jpg
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That is soo wrong.
High Fat low carb is the way to a healthy life as it was prior to 1920 when the high carb agenda was pushed.
 
Had the flu for 2 weeks now.
Passed it to my wife and son, we saw 4 different doctors. Don't want to test for it ?????
Our son just got an apprenticeship but could only put in 2 days out of a week and a half. The company sends them to customer houses and he scares them (understandable).
Tried to get him tested for that reason so he could exclude that fear from work.
Dr. said he hasn't come back from overseas so NO. Here's a sick note which says medical condition bye now. :lol:
Hope the poor kid gets to keep his job.

Really didn't want to get quarantined anyway but don't want responsability infecting others.
Called medical centres prior to going and they said yeah nah that's fine just wait outside doctors room.
Feels like being a kid back in the 70's again sent around to mates houses with chicken pox.
 
Gem in I said:
Had the flu for 2 weeks now.
Passed it to my wife and son, we saw 4 different doctors. Don't want to test for it ?????
Our son just got an apprenticeship but could only put in 2 days out of a week and a half. The company sends them to customer houses and he scares them (understandable).
Tried to get him tested for that reason so he could exclude that fear from work.
Dr. said he hasn't come back from overseas so NO. Here's a sick note which says medical condition bye now. :lol:
Hope the poor kid gets to keep his job.

Really didn't want to get quarantined anyway but don't want responsability infecting others.
Called medical centres prior to going and they said yeah nah that's fine just wait outside doctors room.
Feels like being a kid back in the 70's again sent around to mates houses with chicken pox.
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Not really. At this stage, no cases have been contracted within Australia to my knowledge - and those infected from overseas are not sitting in doctor's surgeries (but watch this space....) i.e. there have been no person to person infections within Australia (yet). It will begin when the first case not contracted overseas occurs.
 
Gem in I said:
If it's not tested I suppose it doesn't exist.
That's the conclusion so far.
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Not so. It makes people quite sick. The very sick people get tested. None of the 22 Australian cases (5 days ago) had contracted it here, they were all from overseas. Obviously that will ultimately change, and it can never be perfect testing, but the odds of getting it in a doctors waiting room at present are negligible. Not much point panicking prematurely. I see the problem, but it would not calm customers - if he could show he did not have it today, it would not mean he might not have it next week, so it is a bit purposeless.
 
There is already suspected cases within 10Km's of the Australian border and an area of the border that allows two way almost 'unrestricted' travel. The local hospital here is expecting it soon and is gearing up due to the very porous nature of the border here and the limited ability of PNG to contain it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-and-png-banned-due-to-fears-over-coronavirus .

The ability of border force to stop anything crossing this area between Cape York (NPA) and PNG is limited by there own protocols. Horn island is only a flight to Cairns.
 
If you knew he had it today, you could stop hundreds or thousands of future infections, I dont think that is purposeless.

If not then follow up retesting is the solution at intervals.

An Australian Company was testing a portable test device that provided results in 10 minutes - put them on every street corner.

:8

I would be drained of blood, because I hang out at so many corners....

:playful:
 
goldierocks said:
Gem in I said:
If it's not tested I suppose it doesn't exist.
That's the conclusion so far.
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Not so. It makes people quite sick. The very sick people get tested. None of the 22 Australian cases (5 days ago) had contracted it here, they were all from overseas. Obviously that will ultimately change, and it can never be perfect testing, but the odds of getting it in a doctors waiting room at present are negligible. Not much point panicking prematurely. I see the problem, but it would not calm customers - if he could show he did not have it today, it would not mean he might not have it next week, so it is a bit purposeless.
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I am not concerned about catching it in a doctors office more the people after us sorry about the poor explanation.

The summer flu always seems worse anyway which is what we have. what strain it is can be anyone's guess at this stage.
Being here on the gold coast one would have to live here to comprehend the amount of tourist buses with Asian visitors flocking to supermarkets (coles/woolworths) as part of their itinerary daily or use to until recently.
Please don't take it the wrong way it's great for economics and cultural diversity. Just pointing out it's probably pointless trying to shut the gate now. I think this horse is well and truly galloping.

The most hysteria I had was in the preventative stages but since getting the flu and passing it to my wife and son (that I know of ) I couldn't care at all about the media bombardment nor statistics anymore except how many tissue you get in a box per dollar.

Untill the majority get it I don't think economies will stabilize any time soon if my sons example is anything to go by.
 

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