Hit A Dead End.

[tailormarc]

Well guys finally found a victorian era buckle ring but hitting dead ends with the makers Mark. Would love some help! Even on the facebook pages i had no luck
Hallmarked 1880 silver buckle ring found outback WA by Marc Russo, on Flickr

Hallmarked 1880 silver buckle ring found outback WA by Marc Russo, on Flickr

Hallmarked 1880 silver buckle ring found outback WA by Marc Russo, on Flickr

Hallmarked 1880 silver buckle ring found outback WA by Marc Russo, on Flickr

Hallmarked 1880 silver buckle ring found outback WA by Marc Russo, on Flickr

Hallmarked 1880 silver buckle ring found outback WA by Marc Russo, on Flickr

 

[tailormarc]

Looks like L F N

 

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But when it came out the ground it looked like L E N

 

[DrDuck]

That's a head scratcher. The closest is L.E (Lawrence Emanuel) who was active in Birmingham a little later than your ring.

Maybe you could post the pic in a silver collector's forum like this:

https://www.silver-collector.com/

 

[tailormarc]

That's a head scratcher. The closest is L.E (Lawrence Emanuel) who was active in Birmingham a little later than your ring.

Maybe you could post the pic in a silver collector's forum like this:

https://www.silver-collector.com/

Cheers mate, yep that was what someone on one one of the pages said. I will jump on that page to see how we go . Cheers

 

[Eldorado]

Luke F Newlands of Glasgow.Hope this helps.

 

[tailormarc]

Luke F Newlands of Glasgow.Hope this helps.
https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/img/member-images/5682/1551779415_image.jpg
https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/img/member-images/5682/1551779444_image.jpg

Bamm! Thats it hey. Thanks a million! Any idea how to tell the date ? The gothic F would be date hey?

 

[tailormarc]

Far out 1861!!! Its an oldie 158yrs old!

 

[tailormarc]

Apparently its 1880 and this maker

 

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[Eldorado]

Apparently its 1880 and this maker
https://www.prospectingaustralia.co...7770_6b20dd3a-dd7c-4860-a501-574f03ae98f1.jpg

This makes sense because I couldn't find any link to Luke Newlands making rings but he was the only LFN hallmark I could find.His hallmark has been seen on wine funnels and teapots apparently.Congratulations on finding the ring.Always amazed at the things you find.

 

[DrDuck]

Yep, definitely a Birmingham mark, so the Glasgow makers mark did not make sense.

It is interesting that there is almost nothing about LEN on the internet (a reference to him in a census as a Birmingham Jeweler).

Glad the forum came through for you.

Interestingly, the Commissioner of Police's (NSW) personal stationary has an oval belt and buckle symbol on it. I've got an example somewhere from when one of the COP's sent me a personal note. If I can remember the safe place I have it, I'll post a scan.

I wonder what the meaning of the belt on the ring and COP's stationary is?

 

[Wishfull]

But when it came out the ground it looked like L E N
https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/img/member-images/9685/1551753660_img_5978.jpg

Please put up a picture after you get it cleaned up. Love to see that.

 

[tailormarc]

Yep, definitely a Birmingham mark, so the Glasgow makers mark did not make sense.

It is interesting that there is almost nothing about LEN on the internet (a reference to him in a census as a Birmingham Jeweler).

Glad the forum came through for you.

Interestingly, the Commissioner of Police's (NSW) personal stationary has an oval belt and buckle symbol on it. I've got an example somewhere from when one of the COP's sent me a personal note. If I can remember the safe place I have it, I'll post a scan.

I wonder what the meaning of the belt on the ring and COP's stationary is?

Cheers for that web link, super helpful and a great site to use in future Yep sadly i cant find any info on that maker too. Apparently it was a love think, used in mens wedding bands and given to women for love, means they both are a perfectly matched pair like a belt into a buckle

 

[tailormarc]

But when it came out the ground it looked like L E N
https://www.prospectingaustralia.com/forum/img/member-images/9685/1551753660_img_5978.jpg

Please put up a picture after you get it cleaned up. Love to see that.

No worries, will do

 

[tailormarc]

Apparently its 1880 and this maker
https://www.prospectingaustralia.co...7770_6b20dd3a-dd7c-4860-a501-574f03ae98f1.jpg

This makes sense because I couldn't find any link to Luke Newlands making rings but he was the only LFN hallmark I could find.His hallmark has been seen on wine funnels and teapots apparently.Congratulations on finding the ring.Always amazed at the things you find.

Yeh it was a tricky one hey. Im struggling to find any info on the maker, no idea were the guy in the silver forum found it