thanks for all the great info wal! i managed to get my hands on a walbanker, from the guys at detectaden in fyshwick. great guys and more than helpful. my 2.5hp tornado pump arrived in the post on friday and along with my 1 1/2" lay flat hose and inlet I'm all ready to go! just one thing is stopping me... where am i allowed to go? Uriarra east, west, casarina sands? do i pull up at coppins crossing and just start digging? i am so keen but don't want to tread on any toes? any help would be great, cheers again