Thanks for that guys, I've been using a xterra 305 for the last twelve months and have found more than enough to cover that, mostly from my time in singleton and western Sydney, now I'm back in gods country (qld) and have decided to upgrade, have been looking at the Excalibur ii and the ctx3030 and have decided to go with the 3030. Have got long service leave coming up in a couple tha so looking to get my self squared away with the new detector by then!!