Ciggarette smoke comin over the fence.

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As I said elsewhere, "We live in a Democracy (The practice or principles of social equality:) that would suggest certain freedoms, the first of which we do not have. That is; we do not have the freedom to vote or NOT in the so called democracy in which we live."

Social equality also presumes a degree of tolerance in our differences and acceptance of what is socially acceptable. Smoking has been socially acceptable for several hundreds of years, it would be foolish to think that the pendulum would swing in the other direction quickly and certainly not "overnight"

I agree with the comment above "I wish I had never started smoking" Notwithstanding the $,000s I've spent, the main reason I stopped was a bout of pneumonia last year that hospitalised me for a week and resulted in a diagnosis of early onset emphysema. It was QUIT OR DIE !!

I avoid smoke, but would still feel hypocritical chastising any smoker in my vicinity.
 
I'm out the backyard having a smoke now.
I don't smoke inside.....being the only one of 6 who does.

That old Cold Chisel song where Jimmy yells..."I'm standin' on the outside lookin' in".....probably seems rather appropriate right now !
 
If a smoker is choofing away LEGALLY in public, then verballing them is harassment. I am sick to death of self appointed do-gooders who just love a good whinge because their 'personal space' has been invaded. Here is a challenge - go tne Royal Hotel in Dunolly or the Newbridge Hotel at Newbridge on a Saturday night and give the assembled prospectors, farmers, railway workers, road gangers some grief about their smoking.
 
Know some people who bought a house a while ago ( I wont say which town) and the real estate neglected to tell them about the sewage works down the road from them..then again maybe they should of had a good look around before buying. On a windy day if the wind is blowing in a certain direction MY GOD! THE SMELL! pheeeeewww. Yer their not to impressed about it, and complaints seem to fall on deaf ears at council..
 
I used to live in a country town in the Adelaide Hills, on a Friday night after the no smoking in pubs came in, the only 2 people in the bar were the 2 owners behind it. Everyone else smoked and was outside, only going in to get another drink !!!

That's logic........
 
There a pub here in town on a very busy main road that runs thru town.. 60kph speed limit, I often think about the drunks out on the footpath smoking and stumbling out onto the roadway by accident, its going to happen one day I'm sure of it.
 
I'm not a complete prude and would and do provide an ashtray for those who must and I know it's a persons own backyard, in my case I would think that because of the high fence the neighbours are probably oblivious as to the fact that their smoke is annoying to anyone else and because I do like to try to get on without causing anything that would seem to be unharmonious I have never mentioned it to them, probably for the simple fact that I do infact like them. It does however get to be a bit like a beer garden full of those outside smokers at times(afterall they would never smoke inside with their children in the house), and I like the next person does enjoy the atmosphere of the open fire, do any of the smokers feel that after 10 years of putting up with the waft would it be a bit rude if I asked them to respect my ability to live the life I dream of and just watch the wind a bit for me when they have to indulge or would that seem just downright rude of me to open my mouth in the first place.
 
silver said:
I'm not a complete prude and would and do provide an ashtray for those who must and I know it's a persons own backyard, in my case I would think that because of the high fence the neighbours are probably oblivious as to the fact that their smoke is annoying to anyone else and because I do like to try to get on without causing anything that would seem to be unharmonious I have never mentioned it to them, probably for the simple fact that I do infact like them. It does however get to be a bit like a beer garden full of those outside smokers at times(afterall they would never smoke inside with their children in the house), and I like the next person does enjoy the atmosphere of the open fire, do any of the smokers feel that after 10 years of putting up with the waft would it be a bit rude if I asked them to respect my ability to live the life I dream of and just watch the wind a bit for me when they have to indulge or would that seem just downright rude of me to open my mouth in the first place.

I think if you just asked them in a friendly manner they'd be happy to, I know I wouldn't be a fended.
 
silver said:
I'm not a complete prude and would and do provide an ashtray for those who must and I know it's a persons own backyard, in my case I would think that because of the high fence the neighbours are probably oblivious as to the fact that their smoke is annoying to anyone else and because I do like to try to get on without causing anything that would seem to be unharmonious I have never mentioned it to them, probably for the simple fact that I do infact like them. It does however get to be a bit like a beer garden full of those outside smokers at times(afterall they would never smoke inside with their children in the house), and I like the next person does enjoy the atmosphere of the open fire, do any of the smokers feel that after 10 years of putting up with the waft would it be a bit rude if I asked them to respect my ability to live the life I dream of and just watch the wind a bit for me when they have to indulge or would that seem just downright rude of me to open my mouth in the first place.
If you never ask the question you will never know the answer, i live on 20 acres so i dont have neighbours just over the fence, but if i did and they asked me to be mindfull of my cigi smoke when their kids were out playing, i certainly would do my best to keep the peace, cant hurt to ask silver, whats the worst that can happen..............................unless of course your neighbours are psycotic axe wielding flesh eating zombies from a different time dimension sent on a specific task to rid the world of non smokers, then i guess your going to have problems :lol: :lol:
OMG :eek: its to early for this S#*t, im off to have a dart!!!! :D
 
Silver - if that is the only annoyance coming from the neighbours you can consider yourself lucky! My neighbours came over one day because his wife doesn't like the sound of my machines in my garage.... I wanted to help, so I said which one? The air compressor? No. The grinder? No. The air tools? No. Turns out it was my shop vac! I said, "Oh, totally understandable that your Mrs doesn't like the sound of vacuum cleaners, I don't think any woman likes the sound of them." That didn't go over too well! So I said, "well I don't like your chickens or the manure you spread three times a year on your garden either but respect your right to do so." We talked and agreed that Sundays I would not use any machines, not even the lawnmower, as long as the other six days I could do whatever I wanted. I have kept to that rule now for three years and I haven't spoken to them since. A small price to pay to keep the peace! And now Sundays I can sit back and do nothing with blessings from my boss and neighbours - football, cricket, and metal detecting are my Sundays now... Thanks neighbours! :)
 
Just to lighten the mood a little....

When I lived in a suburban area of Melbourne (shudder) we had a NSW 'chap' as a neighbour who insisted on AFL Grand Final day, commencing about 2PM, to mow his lawns, use the whipper snipper and generally make as much noise as possible while the broadcast was on. A question of "You fxxxxxxg right there champ?" was met by "Your silly aerial ping-pong holds no interest to me."

As an act of pre-meditated revenge, myself and several others got jack of this ***** and ramped up the noise on the day of the NRL GF broadcast - angle grinders, mowers, welders, one funny bloke re-roofed his tin work shed, and culminated the days activities with an afternoon BBQ, all supported by ACDC, The Angels, Zep, Who etc etc. When a complaint was made, and we were within our time limit for noise, the response was "Your arse sniffing, throw the ballbackwards holds no interest to us".

The stooges left shortly thereafter - probably to Carlton with all the other 'stupido grandes'.

game set and match Victorians!!!!
 
loamer said:
Just to lighten the mood a little....

When I lived in a suburban area of Melbourne (shudder) we had a NSW 'chap' as a neighbour who insisted on AFL Grand Final day, commencing about 2PM, to mow his lawns, use the whipper snipper and generally make as much noise as possible while the broadcast was on. A question of "You fxxxxxxg right there champ?" was met by "Your silly aerial ping-pong holds no interest to me."

As an act of pre-meditated revenge, myself and several others got jack of this ***** and ramped up the noise on the day of the NRL GF broadcast - angle grinders, mowers, welders, one funny bloke re-roofed his tin work shed, and culminated the days activities with an afternoon BBQ, all supported by ACDC, The Angels, Zep, Who etc etc. When a complaint was made, and we were within our time limit for noise, the response was "Your arse sniffing, throw the ballbackwards holds no interest to us".

The stooges left shortly thereafter - probably to Carlton with all the other 'stupido grandes'.

game set and match Victorians!!!!

AWWWW, can't we all just get along ? :eek: :D
 
I have found the same solution suggested for those petrified of snakes in the gaiter section may just resolve their second hand smoke woes also

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Thank you everyone, I woke up refreshed and ready to take on the day, smoke billowing or not, I think I feel better about the world now and know that a little bit of smoke between neighbours isn't really anything much to worry about in the grand scheme of life, it's more about enjoying life, the campfire and friends that either smoke or don't anywhere anytime. Looks like a new world has begun where we can all get along at last(except for all those wars), really, I do mean it !
 
Its funny how we are all happy to sit in traffic or a bus stop or a shopping centre car park breathing in carbon monoxide.

I guess the difference is carbon monoxide has no smell so you don't know your inhaling it.

How about them Volvo drivers? :lol:
 
Do you know what really impressed me about this thread , a member asked for some real help, a lot of advice was given and no one lost the plot on a controversial matter, try this on any other forum and see where it would have ended up, congrats to everyone, shows what a great lot of members we have.
 
Hey Hey,
I am a prospector, a Volvo driver and I smoke.
I totally respect other people's wish's when I light up
It's those bloody Commodore drivers I worry about.
They all seem to aim at me. :p

Retirement Stone said:
Its funny how we are all happy to sit in traffic or a bus stop or a shopping centre car park breathing in carbon monoxide.

I guess the difference is carbon monoxide has no smell so you don't know your inhaling it.

How about them Volvo drivers? :lol:
 
Tathradj,

I used to drive a Volvo.
I used to smoke.
I sometimes wear a hat when driving.

Sometimes I would do all 3 at the same time!

I am your worst nightmare! :) :D ;) :p :8
 
I think as time goes by smokers are more aware that the habit cant be as in your face as it once was.
I was a smoker years ago because that was what you did and everyone inc my mum, grandma, mates and etc did !!!
Some of my fondest memories are kicking back with a rolly and a beer chewing the fat.
I remember faging in restaurants infact anywhere really without compunction. My mum used to smoke In the car with us kids in it !!
What hope did we have but to end up smokers.

My kids and my Grandkids wont have a bar of it and Im happy about that.

The fact that its legal really says it all. Its hypocritical that the Gov and councils are banning it almost everywhere, are totally aware of the health issues, yet still fill their coffers from the taxes.
Crazy. 8)
 

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