Changes in Victoria's prospecting rules
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Thanks for that. Sounds like the PMAV have got their noses out of joint because they failed to notice the recent regulatory changes themselves!
That point on how fossickers bring money to country towns is a big one. Nobody would even know the name Mooralla if it wasnt a fossicking place. Also, the Batesford quarry had roughly 120 fossickers at its last open day. I can guarantee half those people stopped at coffee shops and pubs etc on the way home. Geelong isnt exactly a country town but the point still stands. Mortlake pub probably gets an extra thousand people annually due to the quarry.
Although these places arent affected by s7 (yet) im sure many local businesses will lose valuable customers in Ballarat, Castlemaine etc.
Although these places arent affected by s7 (yet) im sure many local businesses will lose valuable customers in Ballarat, Castlemaine etc.
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Just sheer greed, gold price has gone through the roof, locking up the stocks but not for us though, this country was built on the backs of miners of all types.
Time to fly the Southern Cross again and let them know who is boss, we the people are, dont complain, do.
Time to fly the Southern Cross again and let them know who is boss, we the people are, dont complain, do.
Moneybox
Philip & Sandra Box
Prohibition brings about a black market. It'll be no different with gold prospecting. You can't lock prospectors out if there's nowhere else to go. If they break the rules on entry then they'll break any other rules as well and we'll be back to the good old days 
Moneybox
Philip & Sandra Box
I doubt the value of the gold taken by prospectors would have any impact on these sort of decisions. That is if anybody took the time to research how much we take annually.
Heat stroke would have been a killer
The definition of prospectors and fossickers are different just looking into loop holes for our Vic mates.
Without going into the Acts i did read some where that a limit depth of digging extraction holes was 2 meters.
With the new advanced detectors and coils that distance is achievable and you just never know what your going find 6 ft down.
If the holes are not being filled properly then Park Lands ect would be of a concern for Liabilities.
Difficult & more complex the subject is becoming.
Explanations for the changes is what we are really seeking.
Without going into the Acts i did read some where that a limit depth of digging extraction holes was 2 meters.
With the new advanced detectors and coils that distance is achievable and you just never know what your going find 6 ft down.
If the holes are not being filled properly then Park Lands ect would be of a concern for Liabilities.
Difficult & more complex the subject is becoming.
Explanations for the changes is what we are really seeking.
Been told today that the Minelab show on the Miner`s Den`s Facebook page will have a video out on wednesday night to clarify a few things and hopefully get some answers. I`ll stay out of all the arguments i read about today. I think we all just want clarity and a bit of unity for a common goal.
I think we all just want clarity and a bit of unity for a common goal.
yes loner i agree but that would be the holy grail
but when have we had clarity and unity from the powers to be (the law changes)
yes loner i agree but that would be the holy grail
but when have we had clarity and unity from the powers to be (the law changes)
Not often. We just want to know if we can go into the S7 areas or not and what we can or cannot do. Interestingly on that last video OzGeology says our Miner`s right under Section 7 does not allow public prospecting, detecting,panning or any other activity . Does that also mean no exploring mineshafts or tunnels or walking off the public roads going through those areas ? OTHER ACTIVITY is a pretty broad term.
That's the problem with the whole S7 ,one massive grey area
More grey areas than an MCG full of oldies!
So I'm a new member and im also a member of the PMAV
I got suggested a video on my home screen I dunno if I'm allowed to link anything given my new but type "Asking AI If Prospecting Is Allowed On S7 Land" on Youtube its pretty eye opening at least it was for me
Asking AI If Prospecting Is Allowed On S7 Land
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Welcome to PA.
Personally, my trust in AI accuracy is pretty low, so I normally wouldn't have much confidence in whatever it produced, however whoever used it to produce that video seems to have a good handle on its application. The video scrolls through questions and answers very quickly, but at first viewing, I couldn't fault the answers the AI was giving. I'll review it again more thoroughly.
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Sorry mate I dont know how I forgot to include that lol its on youtube and its pretty new so google might not be quite there yet in revealing it im guessing
Yes, I got there in the end via your edit to your post with the missing link, thanks.
I think it's unhelpful for the video producer to talk about being lied to though, as the regs are so complex and messy, that anybody without experience in interpreting legal-type documents will probably find them well nigh incomprehensible.
Thats fair enough i just found it crazy how clearly ai interpreted it when the pmav says prospecting is allowed even tho the act says it isnt
As I mentioned above, it sounds to me as though the PMAV have been wrong-footed by the speed and scope of the recent regs changes.
I was pleased to see that by his third video, OzGeology had taken note of a comment of mine on YouTube advising him to consult an experienced legal firm to verify his claims and I believe the PMAV need to do the same, in case they find themselves held responsible for giving well-meaning but potentially inaccurate advice to their members.
This is an important matter for all Victorian prospectors and they need to stand united on it - bickering amongst themselves only weakens their position, IMHO.
Grubstake, am I to understand that the powers that be DO NOT consult bodies like PMAV prior to decisions that affect prospecting? If that is the case then the PMAV needs a new lobbyist and communications officer. OMO. Mackka
