Cartridge case identification.

[wiley coyote]

Does anyone know what calibre these are, and what gun fired them? The largest one has D.M. 4 on the base. The middle one has M.F. 85 on it. The smallest has C.K. 5 on it. wiley.

 

[Simmo]

Does this LINK help out?

 

[Dave's Office]

That's a great link for this info, thanks Simmo

 

[Greenhornet_au]

For some reason my head is not working looking at the images....
I will phone a friend.

 

[wiley coyote]

The biggest shell is from a Browning 50 cal machine gun. Made in Des Moines. Iowa. USA. mainly used in Bombers and fighter planes. 4 means 1944. The middle one was made in Footscray, Melbourne. 1985. No info on the other one. I looked up the effect the 50 cal has on a human body. I wish I hadn't. If it goes through your body it turns everything inside to mush. If it hits a bone, the bone turns into fragments flying around in your body like a hand grenade. Either way, you're stuffed. Thanks Simmo, for the bullet I.D. info charts. Military bullets don't have the calibre on the case, whereas, civilian bullets do. wiley

 

[Greenhornet_au]

wiley coyote is good.
As to looking up the effects ? I know enough not to want to know, and hope no one ever needs to know.

My " phone a friend's " response -

.50 BMG
20 mm
.577/450 M H

and

.50 BMG
Cut off 50 BMG by appearance
.577/450 MH

I would agree with that but did not recognise the 'cut off' .50 BMG case, as for the .577/450 they originally were made with a thin brass foil and soon after with a brass case.

I'm a bit dim lately.

Looks like some one has a minor case collection.
.50 BMG used in a military machine gun or aircraft WW2 ?

.50 Cut off - trench art? and even possibly as a brass case for a 12gauge shotgun, yes they do fit, it is cut the correct length.
--- .50 BMG have been test fired from shotguns - surprising results.

.577/450 - Boar War era firearms, Snider Rifles, SA Police were issued with them in 1867 from memory, a very modern firearm in those days.
--- Kato found a projectile from one of these in her Grandparents back yard - they were a smooth bore rifle and later improvements changed to a rifle --- bored firearm.

 

[wiley coyote]

Thanks for that info G.H.

 

[allcables]

awesome link