Dogmatic
Matt
What is the link between Karl Marx, Prussia and the state of Victoria?
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Otto Marx (1897-1974), herd-tester, was born on 3 August 1897 at Hamburg, Germany, son of Carl Marx, businessman, and his wife Lina, ne Steinwehr. Otto was of part-Jewish descent. He fought (from 1914) as a sergeant with the German Army and won the Iron Cross before being made a prisoner of war. Released in 1920, he returned to Hamburg. On 5 July 1923 he married Minna Mollnitz-Schier. While working as a merchant banker with a coffee importing company, he realized the imminent danger facing Jews in Nazi Germany. Leaving his Aryan wife behind, he managed to escape to England in August 1939. He was interned in 1940 and shipped to Australia as an enemy alien in the Dunera which reached Sydney on 6 September that year.
Sent to internment camps at Hay, New South Wales, and Tatura, Victoria, Marx was released as a refugee alien with other 'Dunera boys' to supplement the wartime labour shortage. He joined the Militia on 25 April 1942, served with the 8th Employment Company and was discharged on medical grounds on 20 December 1943. Through a Quaker connexion, Marx was hired as a herd-tester by the co-operative at Maffra. With little knowledge of the dairy industry, he was required to visit farms and stay overnight for the evening and morning milkinga potentially difficult situation for a German in 1944. The milk samples he collected were tested to monitor individual cows' production and butter fat content. He soon procured a caravan which also served as a mobile office. On 3 November 1945 he was naturalized.
Sent to internment camps at Hay, New South Wales, and Tatura, Victoria, Marx was released as a refugee alien with other 'Dunera boys' to supplement the wartime labour shortage. He joined the Militia on 25 April 1942, served with the 8th Employment Company and was discharged on medical grounds on 20 December 1943. Through a Quaker connexion, Marx was hired as a herd-tester by the co-operative at Maffra. With little knowledge of the dairy industry, he was required to visit farms and stay overnight for the evening and morning milkinga potentially difficult situation for a German in 1944. The milk samples he collected were tested to monitor individual cows' production and butter fat content. He soon procured a caravan which also served as a mobile office. On 3 November 1945 he was naturalized.
Dogmatic
Matt
Bloody hell duck. Not the right answer but very impressive.
I will give the answer as I will not be back on for a few days. Have to go and find some gold.
All over Prussia, the readers of Neue Oder-Zeitung - the most radical newspaper in the land - are reading an article by the paper's London correspondent, Karl Marx, who has become fascinated by an episode in a faraway land, an episode to do with a place called the Eureka Stockade...
News from Australia
BY KARL MARX
The latest news from Australia adds a new element to the general discomfort, unrest and insecurity. We must distinguish between the riot in Ballarat (near Melbourne) and the general revolutionary movement in the state of Victoria. The former will by this time have been suppressed; the latter can only be suppressed by far reaching concessions. The former is merely a symptom and an incidental outbreak of the latter...
This was more than just another article by Marx. the episode fascinated him. His good friend Friedrich Engels told him that Australia was no more than a United States of murderers, burglars, ravishes and pickpockets, not worth worrying about, but Marx disagrees. He is certain that it is yet one more example of workers rising against their oppressors, just as he had predicted.
Info obtained from Eureka by Peter Fitzsimons (a great read).
Your turn duck.
I will give the answer as I will not be back on for a few days. Have to go and find some gold.
All over Prussia, the readers of Neue Oder-Zeitung - the most radical newspaper in the land - are reading an article by the paper's London correspondent, Karl Marx, who has become fascinated by an episode in a faraway land, an episode to do with a place called the Eureka Stockade...
News from Australia
BY KARL MARX
The latest news from Australia adds a new element to the general discomfort, unrest and insecurity. We must distinguish between the riot in Ballarat (near Melbourne) and the general revolutionary movement in the state of Victoria. The former will by this time have been suppressed; the latter can only be suppressed by far reaching concessions. The former is merely a symptom and an incidental outbreak of the latter...
This was more than just another article by Marx. the episode fascinated him. His good friend Friedrich Engels told him that Australia was no more than a United States of murderers, burglars, ravishes and pickpockets, not worth worrying about, but Marx disagrees. He is certain that it is yet one more example of workers rising against their oppressors, just as he had predicted.
Info obtained from Eureka by Peter Fitzsimons (a great read).
Your turn duck.
The ship departed Victoria Dock in Melbourne on 5 August 1914 what was significant about it
The Pfalz was a 6,557 ton cargo steamer operated by German shipping company Norddeutscher Lloyd. The ship became the target of the first shot fired by Australian forces in World War I, soon after departing the Port of Melbourne in Australia.
Correct it was actually i think the first allied shot fired in ww1
All yours ramjet
All yours ramjet
2 part question
1 The easy bit... Which colony never had transported convicts?
2 The harder bit... What is ironic about this?
1 The easy bit... Which colony never had transported convicts?
2 The harder bit... What is ironic about this?
headbut
Paul
South Australia, and the Northern Territory of South Australia, never accepted convicts directly from England, but still had many ex-convicts from the other States. After they had been given limited freedom, many convicts were allowed to travel as far as New Zealand to make a fresh start, even if they were not allowed to return home to England.
so only one STATE.
Ya got the easy part...the ironic thing about it?
Ya got the easy part...the ironic thing about it?
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Paul
They allowed convicts from other colonies , still convicts indirectly from Britain
Not what I'm after.
Think Adelaide....
They received no convicts but....
Think Adelaide....
They received no convicts but....
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Paul
South Australia's original settlers had been the first to recognise Aboriginal ownership of land, although it didn't stop them stealing it
Good info but no.
Adelaide
Adelaide
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Paul
Adelaide is the only Australian capital city not founded by convicts
Not founded by convicts but....
Remember it is planned city.
Remember it is planned city.
Edward Gibbon Wakefield planned the colony from jail
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Paul
1st settled by Prussians ?
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Paul
Oh Duck 
correct Duck
Adelaide never took in convicts but was planned by one.
SOUTH AUSTRALIANS ARE VERY PROUD that theirs is the only Australian state that never received convicts. What they dont often mention is that it was planned by one. In the early 1830s Edward Gibbon Wakefield, a man of independent means and unsavory inclinations, was in Newgate Prison in London, on a charge of abducting a female child for sweaty and nefarious purposes, when he hatched the idea to found a colony of freemen in Australia. His plan was to sell parcels of land to sober, industrious peoplefarmers and capitalistsand use the funds raised to pay the passage of laborers to work for them. The laborers would gain ennobling employment; the investors would acquire a workforce and a market; everyone would benefit. The scheme never worked terribly well in practice, but the result was a new colony, South Australia, and a delightful planned city, Adelaide
Your question Sir Duck.
Adelaide never took in convicts but was planned by one.
SOUTH AUSTRALIANS ARE VERY PROUD that theirs is the only Australian state that never received convicts. What they dont often mention is that it was planned by one. In the early 1830s Edward Gibbon Wakefield, a man of independent means and unsavory inclinations, was in Newgate Prison in London, on a charge of abducting a female child for sweaty and nefarious purposes, when he hatched the idea to found a colony of freemen in Australia. His plan was to sell parcels of land to sober, industrious peoplefarmers and capitalistsand use the funds raised to pay the passage of laborers to work for them. The laborers would gain ennobling employment; the investors would acquire a workforce and a market; everyone would benefit. The scheme never worked terribly well in practice, but the result was a new colony, South Australia, and a delightful planned city, Adelaide
Your question Sir Duck.
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