Saw this on FB. I don't know how true it is but thought I'd share it.
ABC reporters looking to interview detectorists
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If true, definitely something to be careful of. It's not the first time media have interviewed people with supposedly good intentions, then twist the story around for sensationalist headlines to boost ratings. :|
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It's just to take the heat off of Abbot,... nothing else but treasure would turn heads away from that type of bad publicity,...I mean who in all of heck would tell an aboriginal in Australia to go back where he came from,and. ..duhhhhhh. 
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Like when Joe Bjelke-Peterson assembled the media at the lake. He walked on the water, but the headlines next day said "Joe Bjelke can't swim".
Goldpick wrote: If true, definitely something to be careful of. It's not the first time media have interviewed people with supposedly good intentions, then twist the story around for sensationalist headlines to boost ratings. neutral
Yep Goldpick, got it in one!
Have some experience of this..... :|
Can, and has, wrecked innocent people's lives.
Not mine thanks Jebus!!!
Cheers,
Billy.
Yep Goldpick, got it in one!
Have some experience of this..... :|
Can, and has, wrecked innocent people's lives.
Not mine thanks Jebus!!!
Cheers,
Billy.
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Whats the actual law when it comes to finding lost things like jewellery/rings etc.
From what I understood, if you made some sort of effort, like say posting on FB about a found ring & asking if someone has lost one etc, & for them to supply a description/pictures etc, then that counts as making an effort. Pretty hard to find the owner of a ring if there are no names or other I.D, so unlikely an owner is going to come forward or see the post on any FB groups/pages.
From what I understood, if you made some sort of effort, like say posting on FB about a found ring & asking if someone has lost one etc, & for them to supply a description/pictures etc, then that counts as making an effort. Pretty hard to find the owner of a ring if there are no names or other I.D, so unlikely an owner is going to come forward or see the post on any FB groups/pages.
From a criminal law Web site.
It seems some people have been approached via FB. They are now reconsidering doing the interview.
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The ABC is very efficient at dis-information and censorship when it wants to be. Recently a Turkish man incinerating himself in detention barely rated a mention. And their downplaying and skirting the issue and criminality of corporate tax avoidance was despicable, while at the same time they were playing up GST increases affecting the poorest and fresh produce.
They are pretty good at bashing smokers too, while boo-hooing e-cigs. No mention of the fact that as e-cig use in Britain rose, so did successful long-term quitting of cigarettes, they just bandied around how the guvment could tax the guts out of e-cigs as well..............
And growing your own tobacco is legal in the UK (and Seppo-land).
They are pretty good at bashing smokers too, while boo-hooing e-cigs. No mention of the fact that as e-cig use in Britain rose, so did successful long-term quitting of cigarettes, they just bandied around how the guvment could tax the guts out of e-cigs as well..............
And growing your own tobacco is legal in the UK (and Seppo-land).
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Here is a story from a few years ago...
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/woman-may...ld-bar-found-on-nsw-beach-20120822-24lhp.html
I guess beach detectorists need to use common sense. If you consider it a 'valuable' find hand it to the police with photo receipt etc and eventually it may be yours without any concerns of the legality. Does not apply to bottle tops and syringes though!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/woman-may...ld-bar-found-on-nsw-beach-20120822-24lhp.html
I guess beach detectorists need to use common sense. If you consider it a 'valuable' find hand it to the police with photo receipt etc and eventually it may be yours without any concerns of the legality. Does not apply to bottle tops and syringes though!
My understanding is that if you find valuables, including jewellery on the beach or park through metal detecting, by law you are meant to hand it in to the nearest Police Station as lost Property. If it is not claimed within 3 months you get it back. If you keep it is deemed theft by finding .... Or something along those words.
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Make sure you get a photo/detailed description receipt with an item number. Photograph the item prior to handing it in too.
When I was a kid we found a handbag on the side of a country road. We handed it in, despite it containing $2700 dollars and some nice jewelry.
The woman gave us $20 - to share between 6 of us. 8.(
When I was a kid we found a handbag on the side of a country road. We handed it in, despite it containing $2700 dollars and some nice jewelry.
The woman gave us $20 - to share between 6 of us. 8.(
Tim said:
Good work!
Nice karma as well!
P.S. Bet you were tempted to keep some of the haul?
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ABC sux if they are seriously doing that, what a pack of lowlifes. Ummm my mate worked there for a while and well they are generally a pack of lowlifes even without resorting to behavior like this. Lot's of bullying there from losers who are basically institutionalised and couldn't find a job anywhere else.....
If we are supposed to hand everything in at a cop station then what's the cut off limit of value? A $30 silver ring with no identifying features, $100 ring, even a $400 ring? To be honest if I found a big chunky Diamond ring worth thousands I would hand it in, these days Diamonds have ID numbers lasered into them, so it would be almost impossible to sell anyway without propper documentation, thousands of $$$$ is a lot of money. To be able to charge someone for theft by finding there should have to be a value cutoff limit where they just say "that's not valuable enough for us to deal with, we are not interested" type of thing. In essence a 7 gram silver ring is really only worth about $3.50.
Also, what would be the timeframe of handing it in, a day, five days, a month, a year? Some people are too busy to trot off to the cop station to hand in trinkets from careless people who lost them each day something is found.
This is where the law gives me the sh%^s, it's nearly always up to the discretion of someone on a particular day and what mood they are in.....
Found this on the NSW Police website. It seems they don't want you at the station for stuff like this, says to call the assistance line for lost property so you are not wasting officers time.
The Police Assistance Line (131444) operates 24hrs a day, 7 days a week.
If you are a victim of a crime, other than life threatening or time critical emergency situations, you should contact the Police Assistance Line (131 444).
Phoning 131 444 allows you to report crime over the phone. Once your report is completed by a customer service representative, your information is immediately available to your local police.
If the crime you wish to report can not be taken over the phone, due to its serious nature, the operator will assist you by advising where you can go to make the report, or by arranging for police to come and see you.
Types of crime you can report to Police Assistance Line (131 444) include:
Break and Enter
Fail to Pay for Fuel (Service Stations Only)
Motor Vehicle/Vessel Theft
Stealing
Malicious Damage, including Graffiti
Minor Traffic Crashes*
Lost Property
Taxi Fare Evasion
When a police response is required, Police Assistance Line (131 444) will arrange for police officers to attend.
Police Assistance Line (131 444) can also assist you with general police inquiries.
By phoning Police Assistance Line (131 444), rather than your local police station, you are freeing up Police Officers who could otherwise be on the street actively preventing and investigating crime in your community.
If we are supposed to hand everything in at a cop station then what's the cut off limit of value? A $30 silver ring with no identifying features, $100 ring, even a $400 ring? To be honest if I found a big chunky Diamond ring worth thousands I would hand it in, these days Diamonds have ID numbers lasered into them, so it would be almost impossible to sell anyway without propper documentation, thousands of $$$$ is a lot of money. To be able to charge someone for theft by finding there should have to be a value cutoff limit where they just say "that's not valuable enough for us to deal with, we are not interested" type of thing. In essence a 7 gram silver ring is really only worth about $3.50.
Also, what would be the timeframe of handing it in, a day, five days, a month, a year? Some people are too busy to trot off to the cop station to hand in trinkets from careless people who lost them each day something is found.
This is where the law gives me the sh%^s, it's nearly always up to the discretion of someone on a particular day and what mood they are in.....
Found this on the NSW Police website. It seems they don't want you at the station for stuff like this, says to call the assistance line for lost property so you are not wasting officers time.
The Police Assistance Line (131444) operates 24hrs a day, 7 days a week.
If you are a victim of a crime, other than life threatening or time critical emergency situations, you should contact the Police Assistance Line (131 444).
Phoning 131 444 allows you to report crime over the phone. Once your report is completed by a customer service representative, your information is immediately available to your local police.
If the crime you wish to report can not be taken over the phone, due to its serious nature, the operator will assist you by advising where you can go to make the report, or by arranging for police to come and see you.
Types of crime you can report to Police Assistance Line (131 444) include:
Break and Enter
Fail to Pay for Fuel (Service Stations Only)
Motor Vehicle/Vessel Theft
Stealing
Malicious Damage, including Graffiti
Minor Traffic Crashes*
Lost Property
Taxi Fare Evasion
When a police response is required, Police Assistance Line (131 444) will arrange for police officers to attend.
Police Assistance Line (131 444) can also assist you with general police inquiries.
By phoning Police Assistance Line (131 444), rather than your local police station, you are freeing up Police Officers who could otherwise be on the street actively preventing and investigating crime in your community.
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Heatho that last line should read-"freeing up police officers to collect illegal revenue". I don't think I have seen a police officer "on the street" anywhere except the club district since the 70's. They're all stuck in the office doing bookwork in triplicate.
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That is NOT correct. Handing it in to police is ONE option in making reasonable efforts to find the owner.
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If you hand the valuable find into the police and it is returned to you at a latter date you are then the legal owner of the property. If you try sell it and it is found to be lost or stolen you cant be charged or prosecuted as its legally yours.
A couple of years ago in Sydney a bloke on his way to work found a bag with about $25000 cash in it. Instead of handing it in to the police he took it to work and was discovered with it by a work mate who reported him. He was charged with stealing by finding and got 18 months in the bay for it. Had be handed it in, it probably wouldn't have been claimed as it was most likely drug money, he would have got it back and been free to spend it.
Better to hand it in and wait a couple of months to get it back and know the property belongs to you and you only.
A couple of years ago in Sydney a bloke on his way to work found a bag with about $25000 cash in it. Instead of handing it in to the police he took it to work and was discovered with it by a work mate who reported him. He was charged with stealing by finding and got 18 months in the bay for it. Had be handed it in, it probably wouldn't have been claimed as it was most likely drug money, he would have got it back and been free to spend it.
Better to hand it in and wait a couple of months to get it back and know the property belongs to you and you only.
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