Just saw it written in text scrolling along the news..
Anyone know of any info?
Anyone know of any info?
90 year old man murdered in Ballarat
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Killed on his birthday 
Here:
http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...n-man-found-dead-and-tied-up-on-90th-birthday
Here:
http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...n-man-found-dead-and-tied-up-on-90th-birthday
Poor bloke. I hope they get the *******(s)
Ag Man said:
3 letters....ICE
Its the scourge of many small country towns today, and makes these young kids sell their own mother to get the funds needed.
Poor old bugger! I can only hope that he his back in the arms of his wife at the moment.
RIP old mate.....the scum who did this will get theirs, their day is coming!
What happen to the days of respecting
Your elders? the gutless pieces of $&@? They can only prey on the weak and the elderly defenceless people
this is happening to often I hope they have some decentsy to come forward for what they have done this man would have been majorly traumatised and most likely had heart failure
Like you said metamorphic ICE
Your elders? the gutless pieces of $&@? They can only prey on the weak and the elderly defenceless people
this is happening to often I hope they have some decentsy to come forward for what they have done this man would have been majorly traumatised and most likely had heart failure
Like you said metamorphic ICE
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Lilnugget said:
Respect in general is slowly dying off
Society is changing for the worse
So sad , I worry what kind of society are we bestowing on the next generation.
90 years old , i cant imagine any reason to kill a defensless old man or women , its unfathomable.
i hope who ever is responcible is caught and the judge locks them up for life.
So sad , I worry what kind of society are we bestowing on the next generation.
90 years old , i cant imagine any reason to kill a defensless old man or women , its unfathomable.
i hope who ever is responcible is caught and the judge locks them up for life.
Brutus and me
Guy
Capital punishment will bring respect back
Society changed when they banned the cane at school, it's odd how as soon as it happened a lot of young people just decided they could do whatever they like without consequence. Add hard drugs and alcohol to the equation and you just have a big mess.
No discipline at home a lot of the time too, a good clip across the ear never did anyone harm.
Some bloke bashed and robbed a 90 year old lady the other night too..... Would love 5 mins alone with these types of losers......
Some kids are even killing their own parents these days like the scumbag who killed his mum and nephew the other week, where is society heading???
No discipline at home a lot of the time too, a good clip across the ear never did anyone harm.
Some bloke bashed and robbed a 90 year old lady the other night too.....
Would love 5 mins alone with these types of losers......Some kids are even killing their own parents these days like the scumbag who killed his mum and nephew the other week, where is society heading???
Metamorphic said:Ag Man said:
3 letters....ICE
Its the scourge of many small country towns today, and makes these young kids sell their own mother to get the funds needed.
Poor old bugger! I can only hope that he his back in the arms of his wife at the moment.
RIP old mate.....the scum who did this will get theirs, their day is coming!
It's becoming all too common these days. I don't think a day goes by that we don't read about a user high on Ice committing some sort of terrible act to get their next fix.
RIP old fella I hope justice is served swiftly.
Ditto, i hope as part of their penalty the perpetrators get put in a cell full of Tarantula spiders, not just a slap on the hand as they seem to be getting.
Jaros
Jaros
This post is an insight into what worked in Western Societies.
Genetic pacification.
Such pacification proceeded slowly in Western Europe between the 5th and 11th centuries,
being hindered by the rudimentary nature of law enforcement,
The belief in a mans right to settle personal disputes as he saw fit,
and the Churchs opposition to the death penalty.
These hindrances began to dissolve in the 11th century
with a consensus by Church and State that the wicked should be punished so that the good may live in peace.
Courts imposed the death penalty more and more often and,
by the late Middle Ages, were condemning to death between 0.5 and 1.0% of all men of each generation,
with perhaps just as many offenders dying at the scene of the crime or in prison while awaiting trial.
Meanwhile, the homicide rate plummeted from the 14th century to the 20th.
The pool of violent men dried up until most murders occurred under conditions of jealousy,
intoxication, or extreme stress.
The decline in personal violence is usually attributed to harsher punishment and the longer-term effects of cultural
conditioning.
It is Interesting the results,
Genetic pacification.
Such pacification proceeded slowly in Western Europe between the 5th and 11th centuries,
being hindered by the rudimentary nature of law enforcement,
The belief in a mans right to settle personal disputes as he saw fit,
and the Churchs opposition to the death penalty.
These hindrances began to dissolve in the 11th century
with a consensus by Church and State that the wicked should be punished so that the good may live in peace.
Courts imposed the death penalty more and more often and,
by the late Middle Ages, were condemning to death between 0.5 and 1.0% of all men of each generation,
with perhaps just as many offenders dying at the scene of the crime or in prison while awaiting trial.
Meanwhile, the homicide rate plummeted from the 14th century to the 20th.
The pool of violent men dried up until most murders occurred under conditions of jealousy,
intoxication, or extreme stress.
The decline in personal violence is usually attributed to harsher punishment and the longer-term effects of cultural
conditioning.
It is Interesting the results,
ozziii
Paul
This is just pathetic, whether the people were on ice or not, this stuff is happening more & more these day.
This elderly fella was probably relaxing at home or in bed when these scumbags broke in & confronted him, they don't deserve any compassion & if found should be punished to the full extent of the law, although that still won't be enough.
Its been on the news a fair bit here in Ballarat but like mentioned above, I wouldn't be surprised if some ice freak had something to do with it, ice is a major problem around here at the moment & there will be more people getting seriously hurt or killed before anything changes unfortunately.
Cars & houses are always being broken into, people going through yards etc, it only takes confronting the wrong person & your life could completely change in a matter of seconds. I often hear strange noises of a night around here, banging noises etc, so there's been a few times I have grabbed the torch & large Fellow deer antler with spikes & went out to check our place out, I won't be asking questions if I find someone.
This elderly fella was probably relaxing at home or in bed when these scumbags broke in & confronted him, they don't deserve any compassion & if found should be punished to the full extent of the law, although that still won't be enough.
Its been on the news a fair bit here in Ballarat but like mentioned above, I wouldn't be surprised if some ice freak had something to do with it, ice is a major problem around here at the moment & there will be more people getting seriously hurt or killed before anything changes unfortunately.
Cars & houses are always being broken into, people going through yards etc, it only takes confronting the wrong person & your life could completely change in a matter of seconds. I often hear strange noises of a night around here, banging noises etc, so there's been a few times I have grabbed the torch & large Fellow deer antler with spikes & went out to check our place out, I won't be asking questions if I find someone.
The Law fails to protect us today.....thats part of the problem!
As Cheese points out, Punishment no longer fits the crime, and in a lot of cases the perpetrator has more rights than the victim.
My wife is a lawyer, and the stories she tells me about what goes on today horrifies me!
Ozziii in correct when he says " it only takes confronting the wrong person & your life could completely change in a matter of seconds".
If someone jumps your back fence armed with a Machete, intent on robbing your home and killing anyone who tries to stop them, including your children...... as a Licensed, regulated gun owner your only choice to stop tragedy is to shoot the *******, your in a whole world of trouble and will most likely spend a long time in jail for protecting those you love.
Self defence is extremely hard to argue in court today, especially when you will be targeted as using excessive force because you had the gun, they had a knife!
Now Im talking years of being locked away with the worst mongrels society breeds, Murderers, Rapists, Drug addicts, Terrorists, violent gang members etc.
For the next 5 years at least, your wife and kids must survive on their own.....they can only come to see you once a week and kiss you on the cheek while your wearing a green jumpsuit across the table from them.
Even if you knock him over the head with a rolling pin, and he dies, your faced with a lengthy legal battle that at best, will cost you many thousands and maybe even the home you love, your car, your boat or your life savings.
Tread carefully!
I always say though....Its better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
Meta
As Cheese points out, Punishment no longer fits the crime, and in a lot of cases the perpetrator has more rights than the victim.
My wife is a lawyer, and the stories she tells me about what goes on today horrifies me!
Ozziii in correct when he says " it only takes confronting the wrong person & your life could completely change in a matter of seconds".
If someone jumps your back fence armed with a Machete, intent on robbing your home and killing anyone who tries to stop them, including your children...... as a Licensed, regulated gun owner your only choice to stop tragedy is to shoot the *******, your in a whole world of trouble and will most likely spend a long time in jail for protecting those you love.
Self defence is extremely hard to argue in court today, especially when you will be targeted as using excessive force because you had the gun, they had a knife!
Now Im talking years of being locked away with the worst mongrels society breeds, Murderers, Rapists, Drug addicts, Terrorists, violent gang members etc.
For the next 5 years at least, your wife and kids must survive on their own.....they can only come to see you once a week and kiss you on the cheek while your wearing a green jumpsuit across the table from them.
Even if you knock him over the head with a rolling pin, and he dies, your faced with a lengthy legal battle that at best, will cost you many thousands and maybe even the home you love, your car, your boat or your life savings.
Tread carefully!
I always say though....Its better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
Meta
it is becoming an age of entitlement, people think they can just take what they want when it suits them and don't have any concern for what it does to their victims or any regard for the laws good honest people are controlled by, it really is becoming a depressing world to be part of in my opinion
Metamorphic said:
Correct me if I am wrong. I don't believe it would be excessive use of force if you shot someone who was coming at you with a knife unless you pumped more shots into the offender than required.
Maybe we (Aus) should have Rules of Engagement like in the Military such as you can only fire your weapon to protect yourself or other's who it is your duty to protect.
bushpig said:
Correct bushpig, they would need to prove excessive force however.......you can bet your life it will be the prosecutions best friend in trying to paint you as a careless, lazy gun owner who recklessly killed a man.
Know what i mean?
ozziii
Paul
Been many cases where the innocent victim ends up being portrayed as the criminal just because he/she tried to protect themselves or their family, its beyond the joke. If you or your family is threatened or put in danger in some way by someone clearly breaking the law with clear intent to harm or kill, then you should be able to do whatever it takes to protect yourself or your family. Its just ridiculous how the law doesn't always work that way though. Not sure if its still the same but it used to be that if someone hurt themselves on your property then they could sue you, that went for crims as well, even if they were breaking in to rob you. That's going way to far, don't know how some of these defence lawyers can live with themselves sometimes.
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