Consider being cashed up !

[Outback]

I have traded both shares & CFD's ( contacts for difference ) so have a idea of the market , now if the article is correct we will see credit STOP in the future , when that happens ! ? :N:


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...25-us-banks-have-222-trillion-dollars-derivat

 

[GypsyGoldAu]

This taken from;... https://www.quora.com/What-do-finance-people-think-of-ZeroHedge-com

from the comments section..."ZeroHedge is not exactly a serious financial site. It's a sensationalist and highly political site prone to pushing conspiracy theories, disaster scenarios and far out libertarian leanings.

The site is most likely run by a single person, a former junior hedge fund analyst who got fired for insider trading and barred from working in the business.

This is not a market analysis site."...

A google will find more sites with similar analysis....it pays to research who is providing the info.,...just be careful before handing over $$$

Cheers

 

[Outback]

Gypsy , instead of bagging the site I would ask you to dispute the facts
What is the value of derivative exposure world wide ?

You don't know do you ?

Me to

jack

 

[Numb_Thumb]

What is the value of derivative exposure world wide ?
jack

The value of any derivative, whether on a long or short trade, is directly exposed to the market value of the underlying stock!

Derivatives offer leveraged exposure to this stock, beware the consequences if the wind turns south!

 

[Outback]

What is the value of derivative exposure world wide ?
jack

The value of any derivative, whether on a long or short trade, is directly exposed to the market value of the underlying stock!

Derivatives offer leveraged exposure to this stock, beware the consequences if the wind turns south!

Derivatives are far more spread then just the stock market , they are like a crazy gamble on almost anything with deposited money leveraged to the max .
Check exotic derivatives :/

jack

 

[Ramjet]

Gypsy , instead of bagging the site I would ask you to dispute the facts
What is the value of derivative exposure world wide ?

You don't know do you ?

Me to

jack

I don't believe Gypsy "bagged" the site. He just post a review of it's validity from a reputable source. It's always a good idea to check up on the value of any information on the internet. Too much fake news out there.

 

[xcvator]

It's still the same rule, whether trading cfd's, shares ,futures,options etc.,only bet what you can afford to loose, and don't whinge about it if things go wrong

 

[HarryHoudini]

Umm: You should never believe all you read. Investigate the writer of the "advert" and you will uncover a little more. And again if you have the money to loose by all means risk it. But you should remember only bet the money you can afford. Fake news is always a good way to separate the punter from his/her money.

Anyway Tyler Durden the author:

The news portion of the site is written by a group of editors who collectively write under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden" (a character from the novel and film Fight Club)
Very interesting reading and not advice I would bet the farm on. Well unless I had loads of farms. They are writing the article to get potential investors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog

And Xcvator is 100% correct and the news is full of people who have lost their money and complaining about the fact.
If it sounds too good to be true

 

[GypsyGoldAu]

Well Jack we've been down this path before....

TBH, i didn't even read the linked info., as i saw the site addy and disregarded it.

Why would i waste one moment disputing 'facts' that come from a dubious source??? (are they even 'fact' in this instance 8) )

I'm sure if you want a serious 'investment' conversation, you could call your accountant... PAY to PLAY sites are best left well alone....similar to all that talk about the Gold price is gonna rocket into the stratosphere.....still waiting Jack....

Hurl slings & arrows all you like at me, it won't change the sites integrity, or that of it's postulations....ymmv.

Once again, i apologize for warning folks about bad deals...

Cheers

 

[Bacchus]

Being neither a perma bull or perma bear I am always interested in people's opinions on stock market directions , corrections and or crashes . The pages of history are littered with predictions of crashes almost daily by someone working on the theory that a broken clock is correct twice a day and they want to be that clock. As a devout fan what was of interest to me in the article was the quote ( IF CORRECT ) re Buffett .

"Far from a bullish sign, Buffetts cash hoard could mean hes preparing for a market crash. When the crash comes, Buffett can walk through the wreckage with his checkbook open and buy great companies for a fraction of their current value."

Without debating the technicalities of what is a crash or major correction if Buffett is posturing to re enter the market in a major way at an opportune time leaves me confident over the longer term . What he knows better than anyone is that the crash of 1929 did not find its floor until 1932 so I can't see him rushing back in if it was to be a similar story , in any event his outlook must be of an opportunity to make $$$.

Whilst on Buffett see he donated another 2.9 Billion $ to charity last month to go with the Billions already donated ( just thought I would get that in before the screams of capitalist pig graced the page )

In the mean time good topic and thanks for the read

 

[GypsyGoldAu]

I agree Bacchus... money is to be made whichever direction it is going... my concern is for the mis-direction that 'some' may be led by reading from 'Pay to Play' sites such as this one.

Gold is a good example of this (as most commodities are, pick ur flavor of the month)...

 

[xcvator]

If you want to play, here are a couple of things I learnt
1/ Get good Data
2/ Invest in GOOD software
3/ Invest your time , minimum of 2 years to learn
4/ Never follow your heart, only your head
5/ Learn to spot "the spruikers " lots of pump'n'dump out there
6/ Have a good broker, brokers fees can eat up your capital as fast as losses, I'd look at I.B in USA
7/ Develop a system, and test,test,test,test

And the list goes on
cheers Keith

 

[GypsyGoldAu]

If you want to play, here are a couple of things I learnt
1/ Get good Data
2/ Invest in GOOD software
3/ Invest your time , minimum of 2 years to learn
4/ Never follow your heart, only your head
5/ Learn to spot "the spruikers " lots of pump'n'dump out there
6/ Have a good broker, brokers fees can eat up your capital as fast as losses, I'd look at I.B in USA
7/ Develop a system, and test,test,test,test

And the list goes on
cheers Keith

Agree with most the above, the hard part for 'speculators' or 'beginners' is to weed out;..1/, 2/, 5/ from the above. I had hoped i had covered that with my first post.... :Y:

Common sense it would seem, yet so many fall foul even 'with' research....

Gypsy

 

[Magilla]

Another crash is inevitable and just like the last one it will be the little guy that suffers. Money derived from doing nothing has to come from somebody and it is always the worker that pays, the rich just get richer.

 

[Ryan]

This thread feeds into why I am "cashgoldsilver" being - Cash is King - GOLD is Insurance - and Silver is Speculation (for profit)

Keep about 2k in $20.00 - $10.00 - $5.00 denominations "under your bed" and sleep well.

Own as much Gold as you can afford in no bigger weight than 1oz (Valcambi 50g Combi Bars e.g.) jewellery is good escaping the government gaze bought second hand of course or found even better,then continue to do what you like which is detecting of course.

An old wise man once said - only worry about what you can change giving no energy to what you can't.

You also need to learn to pick your battles,and if the worlds financials collapse while we sleep what can you do except prepare.

So hope for the best and plan for the worse and go detecting and live just saying.

 

[Dihusky]

This thread feeds into why I am "cashgoldsilver" being - Cash is King - GOLD is Insurance - and Silver is Speculation (for profit)

Keep about 2k in $20.00 - $10.00 - $5.00 denominations "under your bed" and sleep well.

Own as much Gold as you can afford in no bigger weight than 1oz (Valcambi 50g Combi Bars e.g.) jewellery is good escaping the government gaze bought second hand of course or found even better,then continue to do what you like which is detecting of course.

An old wise man once said - only worry about what you can change giving no energy to what you can't.

You also need to learn to pick your battles,and if the worlds financials collapse while we sleep what can you do except prepare.

So hope for the best and plan for the worse and go detecting and live just saying.

Ditto, done Forex, CFD, options and still have a few shares, now our target in high market cap Cryptos, highly profitable but very volatile and requires a heap of research plus computer savy, but big profits can be made by the wise. Scope for speculation on small caps, the big boys are for long term hold. BitCoin is now over $3000 from a $1 start, Ether was $77 a couple of months ago and is now dancing around $400, we love them, but not if you have heart problems!!

 

[Guest]

ZH is an interesting read at times but I wouldn't take everything it says as gospel but with a grain of salt - and I've been skimming it for years now. An aussie site that I like much better is macrobusiness.com.au, it might interest you if you're keeping an eye on property bubble among other things down under.

 

[Moneybox]

If you want to play, here are a couple of things I learnt
1/ Get good Data
2/ Invest in GOOD software
3/ Invest your time , minimum of 2 years to learn
4/ Never follow your heart, only your head
5/ Learn to spot "the spruikers " lots of pump'n'dump out there
6/ Have a good broker, brokers fees can eat up your capital as fast as losses, I'd look at I.B in USA
7/ Develop a system, and test,test,test,test

And the list goes on
cheers Keith

I've found two ways that work for me. One as above but the problem is it's a full time job. Good research can't be done with just an hour to spare here and there. You have to study trends in time and price to have any indication of where the market is likely to lead you.

I'm retired now so just the thought of a full time job turns me off so I go for option two. Jump in on a heavily leveraged product whether it be futures, CFD's of FX it doesn't matter. Just take a calculated trade either long or short using stop-loss orders as usual but being prepared to jump ship just as quickly. Some trades last minutes or some might last hours but unless you have a guaranteed stop-loss you can't sleep on it

 

[Bacchus]

There are plenty of old school investors who have been very successful with the strategy of parking their $ in good quality blue chips for the long term ride the bumps get their 8 to 10 percent and sleep very well but that is investing not trading. To even consider trading without putting in the hours and proper stop losses you are setting yourself up to lose money for others that know what they are doing to make and are frankly better off getting a decent broker. What is becoming popular for those that are not confident in doing the work is to subscribe to someone like " The Chartist " who send you set trades from their analysis with stops and sells . At least then when it hits the fan you can blame someone else

 

[Outback]

I'f you set stop losses with those organisations trading CFDs Or FX they can see that stop level !
You can get spiked then triggered .

Even if you try trading naked '' your orders may freeze at the wrong moment .

Better to buy up cheap baked beans with a long expiry date .

jack